[olug] LILO trouble

Sun Apr 21 01:47:25 UTC 2002

When it works, Ghost is very nice to use with Linux.  Think of it as
tar/fdisk/dd all wrapped together.  dd will not do compression or resize
partitions, tar will not do block for block, etc...  I'd like to see someone
completely restore a system with a failed disk in under 15 minutes using
conventional tools... that would be a neat trick.  With Ghost, it's a reasonable
expectation.  It sucks having to bring a system down to create the image though.

It's nice to have a ghost image just sitting on a cd for quick restoration in
case of a failure.  I've had trouble with it recently though.  It seems like the
older versions may be more stable than the new ones.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Nate Rotschafer" <writetogenius at hotmail.com>
To: <olug at olug.org>
Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: [olug] LILO trouble

> Ah but ghost is fat and easy and most companie would have it so it provides
> a critical infrustructure pirce that would otherwise be missing so if you
> have it use it...not to mention for the beginning admin ghost is far easier
> to use....
>
> Nate
>
>
> >From: "Nick Walter" <waltern at iivip.com>
> >Reply-To: olug at olug.org
> >To: <olug at olug.org>
> >Subject: Re: [olug] LILO trouble
> >Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 11:04:06 -0500
> >
> >Now why would you use Ghost on a Linux machine?
> >
> >I've used Ghost on Windows machines as a backup/replication tool, but I've
> >never bothered with it when dd/cpio/tar/gzip are right at my fingertips
> >with
> >a linux system.
> >
> >Oh, and I make my boot partitions 30-40 MB usually,  That gives room for
> >several kernels to be lying around if you feel you might be experimenting
> >with compiling different kernel versions.
> >
> >Nick Walter
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Nate Rotschafer" <writetogenius at hotmail.com>
> >To: <olug at olug.org>
> >Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 1:53 AM
> >Subject: Re: [olug] LILO trouble
> >
> >
> > > Also note that GRUB and Norton Ghost do not like each other....AT
> >ALL....in
> > > case you ghost your drive....
> > >
> > > Nate
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Gary" <mescie at cox.net>
> > > >Reply-To: olug at olug.org
> > > >To: <olug at olug.org>
> > > >Subject: Re: [olug] LILO trouble
> > > >Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 01:00:06 -0700
> > > >
> > > >Hi
> > > >
> > > >I'm using mandrake 8.1.I've thought about using a /boot partition but I
> >saw
> > > >no reason too until now :) How big would you recommend I make it?
> > > >     I've seen the LILO vs Grub debate on this list.Grub sounds nice
> >but
> > > >I'd
> > > >like to learn to use LILO first.I guess I'm bullheaded when it comes to
> > > >wanting to be able to use some things :)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >         Thanks,Gary
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: Nick Walter <waltern at iivip.com>
> > > >To: <olug at olug.org>
> > > >Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 10:15 PM
> > > >Subject: Re: [olug] LILO trouble
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hmmm, you didn't mention which distribution of Linux you are using,
> >so
> >I
> > > > > can't give installer-specific advice.  What I usually do to avoid
> > > >problems
> > > > > like this with Red Hat Linux is a /boot partition.  I make sure
> >that's
> > > >the
> > > > > first partiton created and right at the front of the drive.  Make
> >sure
> > > >Lilo
> > > > > and the kernel are in that partition and they should be within your
> > > >cylinder
> > > > > limit.  Then you can have the rest of your partitions spread across
> >the
> > > >rest
> > > > > of the drive.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you are willing to switch distros or download additional
> >components,
> > > >I'd
> > > > > recommend using GRUB instead of LILO.  GRUB is smarter than LILO and
> >not
> > > >as
> > > > > constrained.
> > > > >
> > > > > Nick Walter
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Gary" <mescie at cox.net>
> > > > > To: "olug" <olug at olug.org>
> > > > > Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 1:59 AM
> > > > > Subject: [olug] LILO trouble
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I have 2 HDD's.A 5 Gig windows (master) and a 20 Gig linux
> >(secondary)
> > > >with
> > > > > a 150 MB / partition a 250 Mb /home and a 250 Mb /var partition a
> >8.5
> > > >Gig
> > > > > /usr partition and 127 Mb swap partition.My problem is that LILO
> >won't
> > > > > appear at all because it's not within the 1023 cylinder limit,my
> > > >cylinder
> > > >is
> > > > > set at 2034.I've used this setup before and LILO liked it just
> >fine.I've
> > > > > reinstalled linux 3 times in 7 days trying to get LILO to work,with
> >no
> > > >luck
> > > > > of course.I've tried to set my cylinder to 1023 and lower in my BIOS
> >but
> > > > > when I do the total HDD size  decreases dramatically to like 5 Gig
> >(from
> > > >20
> > > > > Gig).Is there another was to change my cylinder situation?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >                 Thank you,Gary
> > > > >
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