[olug] Theo can bite me. [or "OpenSSH Vulnerability"]

[Jonathan Warren]

I don't think anyone doubts that a complete distribution includes software from lots of place and a ton of it is GNU's.  The strange thing about the whole GNU/Linux title is that it is correct but then again Linux is just a trademark.  Just because Stallman wants credit for the GNU orginization doesn't neccessarily mean we should rebrand Linux to make him happy.  Just my .02.  

-Jon Warren

On Thu, Jun 27, 2002 at 07:10:16PM -0500, Brian Wiese wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Jun 2002 08:20:47 -0500 (CDT)
> "Matthew G. Marsh" <mgm at midwestlinux.com> wrote:
> 
> |On Wed, 26 Jun 2002, Christopher Cashell wrote:
> |
> |> As far as I can tell, the only real reason that Theo didn't release
> this
> |> fix sooner, was so that he could ram his Privilege Separation feature
> in
> |> OpenSSH >= 3.3 down our throats. While I think this is a good feature
> in
> |> the long run, I seriously dislike running a program, especially one
> like
> |> ssh, that was released less than a week ago, on a production server.
> |> Especially when there are known bugs with it. I doubt all of these bugs
> |> have been fixed in OpenSSH 3.4.
> |
> |Yeah - he has ben getting worse lately - probably due to the same envy
> |that RMS seems to display so well... ;-}
> 
> I don't think envy is the proper word, perhaps 
> 
> =) Ok, RMS, you love him or you hate him I guess is how it goes.
> 
> I'm up for calling this the Omaha GNU/Linux Users Group. 
> http://www.linuxworld.com/site-stories/2002/0520.rms.html
> 
> It would be more accurate (linux = kernel), which is what we should shoot
> for, but it may also be a bit confusing to some.. oh well, isn't it
> already! ha! ;) -jk
> 
> I was actually just engaged in this discussion because everyone I talk to
> at work who has used GNU/Linux says they use/or have tried "Linux 7.2" or
> "Linux 6.2"  :-D  ... too funny! and also Too Sad!!!!  Now if they said
> they use "Linux 2.4.18" I'd pat them on the back!
> 
> But he is da man who gave us what we're possibly running right now, a free
> OS.  Torvalds didn't do it himself, RMS started this whole thing with his
> hippie-ish idealistic Free Software Foundation.  I love it.  There's been
> tons of good debate on this in the past, I hope you all get a chance to
> look it up and make an opinion of your own.
> 
> kinda the debate:  
> http://www.linuxworld.com/site-stories/2002/0508.rms.html
> his reasonable stance:   http://www.gnu.org/gnu/why-gnu-linux.html 
> 
> Honestly RMS is a brilliant man, and in the end to me, its just about
> giving credit where its due and saying what you mean/meaning what you
> say... words have meaning.  I also respect "hackers" in the true sense.  
> http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/jargon/html/entry/hacker.html
> 
> ok, enough, im done.
> 
> 
>   Brian Wiese | bwiese at cotse.com | aim: unolinuxguru
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