[olug] [OT] New Language for the Year

Jordan Wilberding diginux at diginux.net
Fri Nov 15 00:45:26 UTC 2002


Count me in too.

-Jordan Wilberding (diginux at diginux.net)

> On Wednesday 13 November 2002 23:33, Kevin Lanik wrote:
> I think this sounds like a great idea, count me in...
>  Kevin
>  Lanik
>
> --- Mike Hostetler <thehaas at binary.net> wrote:
> > Disregard this message if you are not a programmer, or not interested
> > in
> > learning an obscure language -- you will only receive this once.
> >
> > I'm a big fan of the book "The Pragmatic Programmer", and it has
> > changed how
> > I have thought about programming, and has got me creating better
> > programs.
> > One of the things they mentioned in the book is learning a new
> > language
> > every year. The idea is that, even though you may not use the new
> > language
> > professionally, you can take concepts of that language and apply it
> > to the
> > ones you use day-to-day.  Even though I haven't done this, I think it
> > has
> > great merit -- I had a job that I worked with XSLT's every day.  Now,
> > even
> > though I don't do that, some of the pure functional ideas of XSLT has
> > enabled me to write better Python apps (which is what I am doing
> > now).
> >
> > As an offshoot of this, a bunch of developers started a "Language of
> > the
> > Year" (LotY) study group.  It has an email list
> >  (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pragprog/) and a Wiki
>
> (http://www.pragmaticprogrammer.com/cgi-local/pragprog?LanguageOfTheYear).
>
> > And they just talk about it on the internet, post on the Wiki and
> > it's cool.
> > But I think it would be neat to do this on a local level -- have the
> > mailing
> > list, the Wiki, but get together once a month or a few times a year
> > and talk
> > about it, network, workshop and learn a little.
> >
> > So this is my call -- who wants to join me??  If we can get at least
> > three or
> > four others, I'd say we do it.  We can start on January 1, 2003, but
> > we have
> > to choose a language, get the list setup, etc.
> >
> > A few caveats, though:
> >    o you really ought to be somewhat experienced.  The rest of the
> > group
> > shouldn't have to teach you basic OOP concepts, etc.
> >    o the language should be somewhat obscure. We don't want to teach
> > people Perl,
> > Python, or PHP.  I'm thinking most like Haskell, Oz, OCaml, etc.
> >    o even though it is obscure, it needs to be actively developed and
> > have
> > good online tutorials (a good printed book wouldn't be bad either).
> >
> > If you want to join me, reply back and we'll get going.  If you know
> > someone
> > who may be interested, and lives in the LNK-OMA area, feel free to
> > forward
> > them this message.
> >
> > over and out,
> >
> > -- mikeh
> >
> > --
> > Mike Hostetler
> > thehaas at binary.net
> > http://www.binary.net/thehaas
> > GnuPG key: http://www.binary.net/thehaas/mikeh.gpg
> >
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