[olug] Real opportunity for getting Open Source into the Enterprise

[David Walker]

Postgres is the one we use and I find it to be very robust.  

On Tuesday 26 November 2002 09:23 am, (Via wrote:
> I write this sort of thing for a living nowadays (for telecoms to
> track/bill subscribers) and java servlets + jsp pages really are the way
> to go for front-end access in my experience.  The only downside to
> servlets is that the memory/cpu overhead of tomcat is not database
> friendly.  For decent performance you need 2 machines dead minimum, one
> for db and one for apache/tomcat.  Plus desktop machines with web
> browsers for access of course :)
>
> I've only ever worked with Oracle as a database back-end, and that's way
> too high cost for this scenario.  Anyone got experience with any of the
> free databases, are they robust enough for this type of application?
>
> Nick Walter
>
> On Mon, 2002-11-25 at 23:50, Daniel Pfile wrote:
> > On Monday, November 25, 2002, at 11:02 PM, Andrew Holm-Hansen wrote:
> > > I don't know PHP but I know enough Java to get a servlet container to
> > > do the job.  I've gotten a sort of similar app working using a
> > > Postgres backend and Tomcat as the servlet container.
> >
> > The reason I brought up php is most people know it, and it's low system
> > requirements. Java servlets would be fine as well, I've never written a
> > large project in it, but I've got all the books and I'd love to give it
> > a shot. I actually debugged some servlet code (not mine) tonight even,
> > so maybe I'm underestimating my skills...
> >
> > Also, a friend of mine who's a big delphi hacker (I know.. I know..) Is
> > looking to get into java, since he realizes delphi isn't a way to
> > maintain marketability. I bet he'd love an excuse to hack out some java
> > code for the experience of it. I'm not much a 'traditional' programer
> > (more of a sysadmin) but I love programming, and would pick up the
> > project for similar reasons.
> >
> > > I've also done some data conversion, though depending on the schemas
> > > and the amount of data to be converted I may decide to punt on this
> > > particular project.
> > > I'm willing, and I may even be able!
> >
> > Agreed, the scale of the project and the state of the old data is a big
> > sticking point for me. I did a conversion project a few years ago, and
> > the biggest problem with flaws in the way the data (old dbf files) was
> > set up. It worked great on the old system, and great on ours, till we
> > tried to bring up record 12,384 for example and found out it was
> > corrupt, and there were lots more that way...
> >
> > Sourceforge could give us a nice place to set up cvs/docs/etc, and I'm
> > sure all of us could set up a tomcat/postgres setup on our respective
> > development machines to test on.
> >
> > -- Daniel
> >
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