I must be blind,I looked on my mandrake cd's 3 times and I still couldn't see a pine or nano rpm.So I just downloaded nano from that link Vincent included with his last email. Don't worry about that windows 2000 disk Paul,I'm in no hurry for it.As far as those iso's go I have a cable modem so it's no problem for me to download and burn an iso.Thanks for the offer though. Gary