[olug] OLUG Project Club???

Tim - DZ iceburn at dangerzone.com
Tue Aug 26 17:22:41 UTC 2003 

My bad.  Someday I'll learn to read thoroughly first, and speak later.

-t

-----Original Message-----
From: olug-bounces at olug.org [mailto:olug-bounces at olug.org] On Behalf Of
Daniel Pfile
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 12:11 PM
To: Omaha Linux User Group
Subject: Re: [olug] OLUG Project Club???


Let me quote myself:

> If I ever get around to it I plan on using an xbox for a mythtv 
> frontend, while doing the capture/encoding on the athlon in my home 
> office.

As in, the xbox sits on the network and acts as the ui and video 
decoder. The athlon captures video, compresses it, stores it, and 
streams it to the xbox. It's a two part symbiotic tivo. You can have 
multiple front ends too. Some people on the list have set up a huge 
multi encoder box in their basement with a ton of disk, with several 
xbox front ends throughout the house.

-- Daniel


On Tuesday, August 26, 2003, at 11:58 AM, Tim - DZ wrote:

> Getting the card into the xbox will be the hard part.  Xbox has built
> in
> USB, but no PCI, AGP, ISA, etc slots.  I won't go so far as to say it
> can't be done, but I would guess that it would require some heavy
> modification to put a card in.
>
> -t
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: olug-bounces at olug.org [mailto:olug-bounces at olug.org] On Behalf 
> Of Daniel Pfile
> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 11:20 AM
> To: Omaha Linux User Group
> Subject: Re: [olug] OLUG Project Club???
>
>
> If I ever get around to it I plan on using an xbox for a mythtv 
> frontend, while doing the capture/encoding on the athlon in my home 
> office.
>
> $140 for refurb xbox + $60 for stereo capture card + $20 for misc 
> stuff
>
> (keyboard cable, game rental, etc) + Existing linux box with lots of 
> disk.
>
> $200 tivo isn't bad, cheaper now that you don't need a mod chip. It 
> can
>
> play mame games too, that alone is worth it. I need my SMB3 fix.
>
> -- Daniel
>
> On Tuesday, August 26, 2003, at 10:55 AM, Andrew Holm-Hansen wrote:
>
>> an xbox can run linux without soldering, or even opening the box.
>>
>> http://xbox-linux.sourceforge.net/
>> articles.php?aid=1&sub=Preparing%20the%20Xbox%20FAQ
>>
>> No reason for a mod chip that I can think of.  This is a fairly 
>> recent
>
>> turn of events.  Too bad you let the magic smoke out of your xbox 
>> before this became available.
>>
>> einer
>>
>> On Tue, 2003-08-26 at 10:33, Patrick Olsen wrote:
>>> I would be willing to work on a Linux xbox project it just sits 
>>> there any way might as well learn something new with it. I fried a 
>>> couple xboxs
>
>>> trying
>>> to solder the d0 pin with the x 2pro mod chip had it working once 
>>> but
>
>>> the
>>> wire came loose and went in to mess with it. As I was soldering my 
>>> friend came in scared the he11 out of me and drip drip solder all 
>>> over the board.
>>> Good thing Wal-Mart has great return policy not that I took back bad
>
>>> xbox I
>>> messed up or anything. I got the xbox for free from my boss for a 
>>> good job gift or something like that not really sure why he gave it 
>>> to me brand new
>>> out of the box so im willing to do anything with it really.
>>>
>>>
>>>> From: "Tim - DZ" <iceburn at dangerzone.com>
>>>> Reply-To: Omaha Linux User Group <olug at olug.org>
>>>> To: "'Omaha Linux User Group'" <olug at olug.org>
>>>> Subject: RE: [olug] OLUG Project Club???
>>>> Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 10:04:14 -0500
>>>>
>>>> I've done the xbox linux.  What I'm curious about is a cluster of 
>>>> xbox's
>>>> ;-)
>>>>
>>>> -t
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: olug-bounces at olug.org [mailto:olug-bounces at olug.org] On 
>>>> Behalf Of Aaron Grothe
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 12:17 AM
>>>> To: olug at olug.org
>>>> Subject: [olug] OLUG Project Club???
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I've been thinking about doing something similar to a
>>>> book club for a while for Linux and other Open Source Projects.  
>>>> The
>
>>>> idea is instead of reading a book to do a project with some other 
>>>> intrested people, sharing experiences and the like, then pretty 
>>>> much
>
>>>> give a report on the project at an olug meeting when things hit a 
>>>> pretty good point.  Also we'd put up our notes somewhere for those 
>>>> brave souls who follow after us.
>>>>
>>>> The overall proposed rules for the club would be
>>>> pretty simple
>>>>
>>>> o - must be a relatively cool project
>>>> o - cannot cost a huge amount of money: say $250 - Max already 
>>>> having a cheap PC or the like could reduce the amount by quite a 
>>>> bit o - while it does not have to advance the state of the art it 
>>>> must be semi-cutting edge or cool o - project can be ongoing, but 
>>>> has to reach a point where the level of effort goes down
>>>> o - must be able to apply to people of multiple skill
>>>> levels (hopefully the group will be able to help newer
>>>> people have success :-)
>>>> o - cannot expect huge amounts of time from the people
>>>> involved a couple of hours a week should be sufficent
>>>> to show progress
>>>>
>>>> Quick list of ideas (some are good, some bad - it is
>>>> left to the read as an exercise to figure out which
>>>> are which)
>>>>
>>>> o - xbox linux, several people on the list experiment
>>>> with Linux and the xbox - perhaps taking different approaches e.g. 
>>>> full replacement, mod-chip and the like o - linux on usb boot 
>>>> drives - linux in your pocket some distros such as Damn Small Linux

>>>> http://www.damnsmalllinux.org would be ideal candidates for this.  
>>>> Might also work into a security project I want to do sometime o - 
>>>> rolling out the 2.6 test kernels
> on
>>>> test boxes and seeing how things go with a wide variety of hardware
>
>>>> work
>>>> loads and the like o - hacking tivos - they are embedded linux 
>>>> after
>
>>>> all
>>>> o - making freevos or other similar projects - I know a couple of 
>>>> people in the group, have already done this but I still have to o -
>>>> something
>>>> with the gnu radio project, have not done anything with this o -
> h323
>>>> video conferencing/internet telephony under Linux o - Linux on 
>>>> WEIRD hardware?  E.g.  I have a webplayer from Virgin (which is a 
>>>> little flatscreen PC that I've been thinking about putting 
>>>> DamnSmallLinux on). I'm sure others must have equally weird 
>>>> machines E.g.  Old
> notebooks,
>>>> one off hardware and the like.
>>>>
>>>> Who am I?  My name is Aaron Grothe.  I used to be President/CEO of 
>>>> a
>
>>>> company called Heimdall Linux.  We were working on a Common 
>>>> Criteria
>
>>>> certified version of Linux about 4 years ago before our VCs turned 
>>>> out to be crooks and that was the end of that.  I'm currently doing

>>>> the DBA thing out at infoUSA.  I'm pretty much a lurker on the 
>>>> mailing list putting my head up every now and then.
>>>>
>>>> Personally, I'm probably going to do a Linux/Xbox
>>>> sometime later this year and would be curious if other people are 
>>>> interested in little bit of reverse engineering and possible DMCA 
>>>> violations.  In the worse case I get a new black and green case for

>>>> an athlon motherboard in the best case I get a new Linux box.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Aaron
>>>> =-=-=
>>>> "The Journey is the Reward" - Old Zen Buddhist Saying
>>>>
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