[olug] Promise FastTrak 100

[Brandon Lederer]

I'll throw this out there, so we have a ball park idea... PHPGroupware, so
heavy PHP usage, all going across apache-ssl. Cups with sharing through
Samba.... can tank a processor rastering a job for the 1200 DPI color
laser...  Fax Server.... and Email server.  MRTG generating 150 graphs every
5 minutes.  Jakarta-Tomcat is running, (java server pages) but not a heavy
load at all.  MySQL for the backend of PHPGroupware, my guess, an extremely
light load for the program.  LDAP serving the Postfix and Courier IMAP
processes.  All on a PIII 933.  apparantly running Software RAID mirroring.
Disk activity in this should be Minimal..... and 1.5 GB of ram... shouldnt
have to worry about swappin.

-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew G. Marsh [mailto:mgm at midwestlinux.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 10:49 AM
To: Omaha Linux User Group
Subject: RE: [olug] Promise FastTrak 100


On Wed, 23 Jul 2003, Brandon Lederer wrote:

> I guess I am concerned about the processor overhead in a server.  Or is
> there not that much overhead for mirroring.  I understand how striping
would
> have serious overhead.

Two points:

1. In a SMP system you can use slow processors (I have (2) 200M Pentium
   Pros) and not worry about overhead due to threading structures in
   in use (unless you are using 2.1/2.2early)

2. If your single processor is > 450M on a server what are you worried
   about?

Note that any processor over ~200M can drive a LAN connection fully and
still have some leftover cycles. Thus the empirical derivation above.

FWIW - PlainStripes < Mirroring < RAID5 in terms of CPU intensivity.

And I would not run RAID5 without a SMP system (I have one with a 2G
Athlon single CPU that gasps during hard usage)

Tweedle for Deetails...

mgm

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brandon Lederer [mailto:brandonl at hms4emc.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 8:26 AM
> To: 'Jay at RebootTheUser.com'; 'Omaha Linux User Group'
> Subject: RE: [olug] Promise FastTrak 100
>
>
> So which is better?  Linux Software RAID in the kernel or the Promise
> ATARAID TX controllers?  3ware is the only Hardware RAID for IDE?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jay Swackhamer [mailto:Jay at RebootTheUser.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 8:02 AM
> To: Omaha Linux User Group
> Subject: Re: [olug] Promise FastTrak 100
>
>
> Yes, with the Promise ATARAID controllers, it is 95% software raid. The
> drivers do the work, not the hardware. If you wanted to be cheap, there is
> only a small modification needed to the regular promise ata PCI
> controllers to make them function like the TX raid controllers.
>
> > I doubt I can use the devices.... I just said they exist......... but
they
> > are
> > mirroring.  this definitely can't be software RAID like in the kernel
and
> > stuff.  That is Software RAID..   this is something different, isnt it?
> > I
> > did   0, none,  Nada  configuration in the OS for this RAID, so how is
it
> > software RAID?
> --
> Jay Swackhamer
> Reboot The User
> 15791 West Dodge Road
> Suite 135
> Omaha, NE 68118
> (402) 933-6449
> (402) 933-6456 Fax
> http://www.RebootTheUser.com

Hey Jay - Your email still no likie me.... ;-}

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