[olug] Cox and port 25

[Trent Melcher]

Also effected?  How are they effected?  Our ports 25 or 80 have never been 
blocked for our Business Accounts.  Now I do know that 80 is blocked on 
the residential side and 25 is blocked in areas.  Port 25 isnt blocked on 
my residential account, but I do know others that are.

Trent


On Mon, 30 Jun 2003, Bob McCoy wrote:

> Tim V - DZ said:
> 
> > Cox at work customers are effected also.
> 
> 
> OK.  I'm always one of the first to say, "I may be confused."  But
> please tell me where you came up with your $0.02 worth.  Because here
> are my observations:
> 
> 1.  I maintain mail servers for two different Cox at Work customers.
> Neither have been effected by the block.  Both can telnet to port 25 on
> any valid mail server.
> 
> 2.  I called Cox Business customer service and they said that they have
> not applied a universal block to port 25 traffic for their business
> customers.
> 
>     A.  They did say that some businesses mistakenly come up with DHCP
> which will give them a residential IP.  In which case, they get the
> block.
> 
>     B.  They also said that individual spammers will get blocked.
> 
> So what gives here?  You're not the only one to say that @Work customers
> are also effected.  I just want to know what that's based on.
> 
> Bob
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: olug-bounces at olug.org [mailto:olug-bounces at olug.org] On Behalf Of
> Tim V - DZ 
> Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2003 11:13 PM
> To: 'Omaha Linux User Group'
> Subject: RE: [olug] Cox and port 25
> 
> 
> Cox at work customers are effected also.
> 
> $0.02
> 
> -t
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: olug-bounces at olug.org [mailto:olug-bounces at olug.org] On Behalf Of
> Bob McCoy
> Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2003 8:55 AM
> To: 'Omaha Linux User Group'
> Subject: RE: [olug] Cox and port 25
> 
> To Nathan's point about running a valid business and work at home, Cox
> would probably maintain that you should be using Cox at Work and not
> Cox at Home.
> 
> >From the acceptable use policy
> <http://support.cox.net/custsup/policies/acceptableuse.shtml#aup>:
> Commercial Use.  The Service is designed for personal use of the
> Internet and may not be used for commercial purposes.  You may not
> resell or otherwise charge others to use the residential Service.  You
> agree not to use the Service for operation as an Internet service
> provider, or for any other business enterprise, including, without
> limitation, IP address translation, or similar facilities intended to
> provide additional access. 
> 
> I'm not saying it's right.  I'm just saying that you wouldn't get a lot
> of sympathy from Cox for your argument.
> 
> I do not work for Cox.  I am not siding with Cox.  Nor do I wish to
> argue about the Cox at Work pricing structure, the fact that life is
> unfair, or anything else.  However, as a sidebar, I have observed that
> our Cox at Work connection at the office is not affected by the port 25
> block (yet).
> 
> Now if you're using Cox at Work and have this issue, I truly apologize for
> mischaracterizing your email and I believe you have a legitimate case.
> Otherwise, I think you're just stuck like the rest of us.
> 
> Bob
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: olug-bounces at olug.org [mailto:olug-bounces at olug.org] On Behalf Of
> Jay Hannah
> Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2003 10:56 PM
> To: Omaha Linux User Group
> Subject: Re: [olug] Cox and port 25
> 
> 
> 
> What a strange situation... I never thought I'd be defending Cox when
> they (once again) block something and piss me off. I guess I'm just a
> lot angrier at spammers nowadays than ISP who try to fight them... 
> 
> Anyhoo, here's two more cents:
> 
> "Nathan Rotschafer (OLUG)" wrote:
> > Now consider I run a valid business and work from home and need to
> > send company email from my house what do I do?  If the email comes 
> > through Cox's servers some place will tag it as spam or refuse 
> > delivery based upon the fact that it is "forged".  Now what do I do?  
> > In my opinion Cox just put a major blow to work from home business 
> > people and that is completely unacceptable.
> 
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