[olug] Question about Motorola Canopy wireless equipment

[neal rauhauser]

   I replied a bit, looked closer, and we need to talk in person ... far 
too complex for this venue. Canopy is the suck for what you want, so is 
every other wireless internet player - you might very well want cirronet 
for this job.



Eric Johnson wrote:
> Thanks for the response!
> 
> Here's some clarification on our needs:
> 
> 1) Everything will be stationary, environmental sensors or other equipment
> that is permanently installed in one place (on one end, at least). I don't
> want to say on the list exactly what this is for, although it's probably
> not hard to guess.


> 2) We can install antennae that will be above any crop canopy, but may
> experience line-of-sight issues from rolling terrain or trees.

   No line of sight, no connection. Cruddy line of site /w partially 
blocked first fresnel zone? Maybe you get signal.

> 
> 3) It does need to be fairly realtime.

    This ought to be good ... its gotta be some bovine reproduction 
thing ... cowpr0n.org coming soon :-)

> 4) We frequently will not be close enough to anyone else's infrastructure,
> but we can do clusters and use some other communications link between the
> clusters and base (although expense is always an issue in our market --
> particularly recurring expense like monthly phone charges).
> 
> 5) The number of remote nodes will vary between as few as 10-20 and as
> many as 500+
> 
> 6) We are currently using RF Neulink RF9600 radio modems. The 9600 baud is
> not generally a problem, although in high-collision situations, the speed
> is an issue. Data packets tend to be quite small (generally under 256
> bytes, although some can be larger).
> 
> 7) Our biggest customers tend to be in the most remote areas -- Eastern
> Washington, Texas, New Mexico and the like.
> 
> 8) When our equipment is running, there is water everywhere. From the
> sales-droid information, it looks like that is probably not a big issue
> for this equipment.
> 
> Along with the Canopy stuff, do you know of anything else that sounds like
> a good fit?
> 
> On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, neal rauhauser wrote:
> 
> 
>>   If you're looking for an inexpensive way to get telemetry from ag
>>gear  I have some questions for you:
>>
>>1. does it need to be real time, or can it be dropped off by the machine
>>once it gets close enough to a radio facility?
>>
>>2. if it is real time data how fast are you going? If you don't need
>>more than a 64k channel there are much better solutions, in terms of
>>central site cost & maintenance trouble than using Canopy.
>>
>>3. how many systems are you talking about tracking? Are you close enough
>>to Sprint/Verizon towers to use their internet via cell? Yes, it costs
>>monthly, but its predictable and wireless troubleshooting gets *very*
>>expensive.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Eric Johnson wrote:
>>
>>>Has anyone on the list used or evaluated Motorola's Canopy wireless stuff?
>>>
>>>If so, what are the real pros and cons and performance limitations?
>>>
>>>Our proposed use would be to provide a telemetry connection for equipment
>>>in the field (literally in the field: agricultural equipment). The common
>>>distance between nodes would be one mile or more and the central base
>>>station could be many miles from the remote locations.
>>>
>>>-- Eric Johnson
>>>-- eric_j at oasis.novia.net
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