[olug] Internet Access

[Jake Churchill]

I live on north 108th street and I am probably closer to Cox than you
but they have the same service as far west as Valley so it is amplified
at key points.  Also, the Cox architecture is a multi-ring network. 
There's one large ring around the city and several smaller rings powered
by each node.  That is all fiber.  It is not until you get into specific
neighborhoods that you get to actual cable so there should not be any
loss since fiber takes like 40 miles to notice any loss at all.

About servers, I used to work for cox and they only scanned ports 1-100
for server activity.  I've been running ftp servers and web servers on
different ports for about 2 years and they have never known.  Yes, you
have to do the initial setup and change the port number, but how hard is
that really?

As far as 1.0 MBps downloads, that is common for me also.  I download a
lot of bittorrents and at about any time of the day I can think of I've
seen them going that fast.  I used to live closer to cox and my roomate
had it downloading faster than that.  The upload speed is really the
only downfall I see but I download much more than I upload.

Jake

On Tue, 2004-12-14 at 07:00, Nathan D.Rotschafer wrote:

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> Excellent word usage so late at night!  But seriously, for me the 
> initial benefit was simple.  Upload bandwidth for my ip phone at home.  
> Then I figured out I could host stuff from my house on standard ports 
> with that upload speed and that made it so much the better.  The I 
> figured out they didn't care...bonus #3.  The cost factor never really 
> played into it for me but was added bonus #4.  As you move further west 
> it seems the slower your cox speeds go (more and more people in 
> suburbia are mindlessly hooking their windows computers up to the 
> internet because it is the "next great thing" and their kids want it).  
> I challenge someone around here to beat the speed of my qwest cable 
> modem (downloads a 1MB/sec and yes that is megabytes NOT megabits).  
> Even downloads over 1.5Mbits/sec when I had my apartment with cox 
> seemed rare.  And bonus #5 that you don't realize till you have 
> it...stability.  I used to laugh at people with cox service how it 
> would go down in a storm...meanwhile I'm sitting in my apartment with 
> UPSes and a stable connection to the internet that never and I mean 
> NEVER dropped in 9 months and satellite TV that was only out 1 time 
> (forget that cable smoke and mirrors about how it always goes out)
> 
> Nathan D. Rotschafer
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> On Dec 14, 2004, at 12:42 AM, Robert A. Jacobs wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, 2004-12-13 at 23:42, Jake Churchill wrote:
> >> See, it's $40 for Cox and you get 4Mbps download and 512Kbps upload.
> >>
> >
> > Technically, you get *up to* 4Mbps download and *up to* 512Kps upload.
> > If the pipe is saturated, you won't get near those values and depending
> > on how many of your neighbors are sharing your pipe *and* what they are
> > doing, you may be getting far less than you think.  That's the point
> > Trent made earlier.
> >
> > The other salient point is Nate's:  Cox's AUP states that you can't run
> > any servers...no web servers...no mail servers...no anything.  While 
> > you
> > can probably get around it by launching your servers on non-standard
> > ports, Cox is within their rights to kick you off their service if you
> > run servers (the fact that they choose to turn their heads the other 
> > way
> > *right now* does not obviate the fact that they can, at any point,
> > choose not to turn their heads).
> >
> > Running servers is typically a non-issue in the DSL world and is the 
> > one
> > thing that keeps me interested in this possibility.  The fact that it 
> > is
> > cheaper is also a bonus.
> >
> > -robert.a.jacobs
> >
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