[olug] Microsoft is out of control!

[Brandon Lederer]

Mac's overcame this issue by allowing you to run Mac Classic on top of OSX.  
So lets start over M$.... afterall were gonna have 4 GB of Ram, right?  and a 
Terabyte of disk storage.... Whats the issue with running 2 OS's here?



On Thursday 06 May 2004 11:26 pm, Jake Churchill wrote:
> SUMMARY:  Apple is smart, Microsoft is stupid, unless you've never used
> a Mac.
>
> On May 6, 2004, at 11:08 PM, John DiMartino wrote:
> > Well... they got all that legacy BSD code in there :)
> >
> > On May 6, 2004, at 10:52 PM, Sean Kelly wrote:
> >> On Thu, May 06, 2004 at 05:26:13PM -0500, John DiMartino wrote:
> >>> What I don't get is what is MS offering that isn't already in OS X?
> >>> OS
> >>> X runs better in every incarnation on older hardware.  What is MS
> >>> doing
> >>> to make each version of their OS that much more bloated?  Don't they
> >>> spend any time at all cleaning up and optimizing code?
> >>
> >> I imagine they do spend some time doing it, but they have a hell of a
> >> lot
> >> more legacy to carry around than Apple does. Every time they roll out
> >> new
> >> APIs, system calls, etc, they have to keep the old ones. They've got
> >> to
> >> support crap that goes back ages. OS X is pretty new, written with a
> >> totally different design model, and not dirtied up with history yet.
> >> That
> >> is also likely why Apple can roll out new versions so fast, such as
> >> the
> >> upcoming 10.4 "Tiger".
> >>
> >> Microsoft can't really do what many opensource things do and just say
> >> "We
> >> no longer support doing X using the Y API." They would drive
> >> developers
> >> away quick.
> >>
> >>> The fact that they add more and more worthless stuff without actually
> >>> doing anything quality with thier OS is just a reminder of why the
> >>> court
> >>> should have broken them up and forced some competition down their
> >>> throats.
> >>
> >> Doing something "quality" with an OS as big as Windows isn't exactly
> >> easy.
> >> I've seen some of the work that has had to go into FreeBSD throughout
> >> 5.x
> >> development. There is a hell of a lot of grunt work compared to "wow,
> >> what
> >> a neat feature!" There has been more work than any end user will ever
> >> understand. SMPng is/was a total bitch. Now magnify this by 50,000 to
> >> match
> >> the Microsoft codebase.
> >>
> >> You also have to remember that Microsoft designs the operating system
> >> and
> >> adds things that the big time hardware and software developers want.
> >> They're not entirely designing for you. They're designing for
> >> companies
> >> that want to sell you those flashy programs. So, Microsoft is better
> >> off
> >> adding APIs than they are flashy features. Apple isn't really in this
> >> boat
> >> yet, since there are way fewer Apple developers, both open and
> >> commercial.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Sean Kelly         | PGP KeyID: D2E5E296
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