[olug] Opinions of MSCIS program at Bellevue

[Jaymz Ringler]

I have seen the same thing here in Lincoln.   

There were a select few of us that excelled in our IT coursework and the
rest of the class just slid by doing the bare minimum.  A few of these
guys are friends of mine, and it was hard to tell them that I wouldn't
hire them.  I spent 8 hours a day full time as a net admin, then 4 hours
in class and usually a couple more hours at night after class.

They think that they will learn everything they need to know in class
and don't do any learning or discovery outside of class.

I've talked to many CSE majors from UNL and have been asked questions
such as...   "my room mate and I want to put both computers on
roadrunner, what kind of equipment do I need ?"     no joke..  I
couldn't believe it. 

So, I don't think it's just a problem at BU.   I think the problem lies
within the laziness of people these days.  It's like the old  "Paper
MCSE". 

The sad part is I know of a few individuals that possess a very high
level of knowledge but are without a degree...   If they come up against
one of these people with the Bachelors but no knowledge or experience,
the bachelors wins, but then job performance prevails and they are fired
shortly after.

 




On Tue, 2005-02-22 at 10:44 -0600, Thomas D. Williamson wrote:

> About the Bellevue program I have heard of a concern. My brother-in-law was
> taking a Master's degree in computer science, I don't know if it was the same
> as you are considering, but he had mentioned some things he saw. He has a two
> Bachelor degrees, one in business from Creighton and one in computer science
> from UNO. 
> 
> This course of study had programming segments and he ws doing that in in work
> and had done it in the courses at UNO. While in this course many of the other
> students did not seem interested in working on the assignments and would
> "complete" them in class. At quizzes and tests for that segment only he and
> another student would get them done in about 45 minutes to an hour, while the
> other students seemed to struggle to write the programs that were only slight
> variations from the homework assignments. He felt that a large part of the
> class were interested in getting the degree without really working at improving
> their skills and expanding their knowledge. The concern for him was what value
> would the degree have when others who have the same degree cannot do the basic
> work that the degree is supposed to qualify one for. So out in the job market
> as these other graduates go out and demonstrate they do not really have the
> education and skills needed, what will future employers think of a Master's
> degree from Bellevue.
> 
> I taught a statistics segement in the Human Resources for two instructors and
> found similar attitudes in the students there. Many were wanting to put in the
> 18 months to get their piece of paper, while a small group saw the value of
> learning the subject to understand what statistics mean and how they can be
> used in planning and projecting work that would effect human resources.
> 
> Essentially you may receive a great education and develop new skills and gain
> knowledge, but what will the other students do to the value of your degree?
> 
> Tom Williamson
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