[olug] Distribution download

[Adam Lassek]

This would be a bad idea for several reasons. The last thing we need is
to needlessly complicate the install process by using a VM that is beta
quality, at best. Also it will taint their experience because when the
VM breaks something they will blame it on Linux. If the VM runs slowly,
they will think Linux runs slow.

If they bring their own copy of VMWare, that's no problem. It works
well, and supports Linux. But if they want to try Linux without altering
their Windows install, the best option is to simply hand them a Knoppix
CD.

Also, we don't wipe their drives anyway. If they want to dual-boot, we
simply pop in a Knoppix disc and resize the ntfs/fat partition. I've
done this a couple of times before, works like a charm. (Although its
definately good policy to warn them to backup any important data
beforehand!)

As to the other two you mention, I think Bochs is dead or at least
smells really funky. Last release was almost a year ago. And I don't
think Xen does what you think it does.

On Mon, 2005-01-10 at 22:58, Rob Townley wrote:
> Just a thought, if a 'customer' at the installfest is hesitant about
> having their hdd wiped, consider installing QEMU.org's x86 emulation
> on their windows box.  They still want windows to run word, install
> QEMU on top of linux. QEMU is an open source virtual machine project
> that runs on linux, Mac OS X, and Windows.  With it, windows can run
> on top of linux and linux can run on top of windows.  The upside is
> that it is open source.  The downsides (just for now) are that it is
> not as user friendly as VMWare nor is it nearly as fast when windows
> is underneath.
> 
> Another cross platform Virtual Machine or Emulator is BOCHs.
> 
> The authors of XEN say it runs fastest because it's layer is not as
> thick and it actually involves a rewrite of the OS.  As such, it is
> not easy nor does not run on windows, but windows can run on it.
> 
> 
> On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 20:43:59 -0600, Adam Lassek <hayai2 at cox.net> wrote:
> > I'm going to burn some copies of these. Would anyone be interested in
> > DVD versions of these distros as well?
> > 
> > On Sun, 2005-01-09 at 14:37, Adam Haeder wrote:
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> > > For the Jan 2005 Installfest next Saturday, we will use SuSE 9.1 Pro as
> > > the default distribution (the same one we used last time). There is not
> > > enough differences between 9.1 and 9.2 for us to make the switch, plus we
> > > still have a lot of burned copies of 9.1 from last time :)
> > >
> > > There are always people there who request certain distributions. We will
> > > also have these available:
> > >
> > > Fedora Core 3
> > > Debian 3.0r3
> > > Latest Knoppix
> > >
> > > If you're volunteering next Saturday, you can help us out by burning cds
> > > ahead of time. SuSE, Debian and Fedora can be downloaded here:
> > >
> > > http://box2.haederfamily.org:9009/linux/
> > >
> > > Knoppix can be downloaded from www.knoppix.org
> > >
> > > See you all on Saturday
> > >
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> > > AIM Institute
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