[olug] Suse 9.3 Pro download

Wed Jul 13 13:04:18 UTC 2005

With suse 9.0, I used apt4rpm with good results. I notice one of the links 
Scott provieded was for it. Just might want to give it a try and see if it 
works for you.

To Neil, I've had problems with HP DVD writers not wanting to always work in 
both Linux and BeOS. Don't know why they are so finicky, but Plexors and Lite
-ons have never given me the same problems in either OS.

I will have to work at 2 pm and will only be able to make the first hour if 
any of the installfest. I'm located in Glenwood, Ia. If anyone is interested 
in one of the BeOS variations I have or copies of the K12 Linux CDs, or even 
the SuSE 9.3 DVD if I have any blanks left, let me know. I can burn some and 
maybe get them to someone that lives or works somewhere around this side of 
the area that plans on attending or can pass them on to others.

Sorry I'll miss the event and being able to meet some of you. Hopefully soon 
I will.
BTW, I also have to miss the Haiku conference in Los Vegas on the weekend of 
August 6th, which is an even bigger disappointment to me. If anyone is likely 
to be in the area around that time (hint-Tim) and is curious, contact me and 
I'll see about getting you a guided tour of Haiku and a chance at meeting 
some of those involved with it. Maybe you could pass on your impressions 
(good OR bad, naturally) to other LUG members for their benefit.

Cale Lewis

>I agree with Brian on most points. After being an RH user for many years,
>my conversion to SuSE has been pretty painless. Although I've never been a
>big fan of 'admin frontend tools', YaST is worth it's weight in gold.
>The only area I've run into where Fedora wins is with third-party rpm
>support (sites like freshrpms.net and
>http://dag.wieers.com/home-made/apt/). Other than that, I have SuSE
>running on laptops, desktops and servers and am very happy with it.
>
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>On Mon, 11 Jul 2005, Brian Roberson wrote:
>
>> good post - see inline comments...
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 10, 2005 at 11:27:05PM -0400, Dave Hull wrote:
>> > During this thread, someone asked:
>> >
>> > >How would you guys rate Suse 9.3 to Fedora Core 4, or other distros?
>> >
>> > While I haven't used 9.3, I'll throw a few cents at you.
>> >
>> > I've used many distros over the years and have been paid to support RHEL 
>and
>> > SLES 9. My preference is for RHEL (and FC).
>> >
>> > On RH and FC, when you update the kernel, the previous version and it's
>> > compiled
>> > modules are left in place and booting to them is a simple matter of
>> > selecting
>> > the kernel version you want from the grub menu.
>> >
>> > Under SLES, when you update the kernel, the old one and it's modules
>> > are removed
>> > from the system. If the new kernel doesn't work, oops. You can't simply
>> > reboot
>> > and pick the old kernel from the menu. You've got to get a CD with the 
>old
>> > kernel version on it and boot from CD then uninstall the new kernel and
>> > reinstall the old one.
>>
>> true - but are you saying you do not have a testing environment to test 
new 
>kernels?
>>
>> how many times have you ran into this? ( unable to boot after kern update 
>on suse )
>> I have yet to experience this... not saying it could *not* happen; but 
>after 7 years of
>> suse on a wide variety of hardware... it has never came up... I attribute 
>this to the
>> stellar QA SuSE does on their kernel packages.
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Secondly, the default rule set for RHEL/FC IPTables is simple. You can 
>look
>> > at
>> > it and make sense of it in fairly short order. Hence, maintaining it is
>> > easy.
>> >
>> > Under SLES, the default rule set for IPTables is approximately a hundred
>> > lines
>> > of overkill and as a result, it's difficult to maintain.
>> >
>>
>> yast firewall - cant get easier than that...
>>
>>
>>
>> > Thirdly, RHEL and FC3 (and up), both use up2date to keep systems
>> > patched and to
>> > install new software and it will resolve dependencies for you 
>automatically.
>> > You can configure it to save old packages so you can "roll back" to a
>> > previous
>> > version if needed. Up2date can be used from the command line which is 
>nice
>> > on
>> > servers with no XWindows, and you can run it from cron to keep systems
>> > updated
>> > automatically.
>> >
>> > SLES uses online_update from the command line, but you can't install new
>> > packages with it. You can only update currently installed packages. To
>> > install
>> > new software you have to use Yast which is an XWindows or Curses gui
>> > application.
>> >
>> > There are times when it's nice to run up2date <package> to install 
>something
>> > that you don't currently have on the system.
>> >
>> > One thing I don't like about RH/FC is the lack of native support for 
NTFS
>> > and
>> > mp3. I understand they are taking the high ground and all, but having to
>> > recompile modules to support those "standards" gets old.
>> >
>>
>> yast sw_single
>> or
>> yast sw_single "packagename"
>>
>> > I'll give Suse this, their email support is top notch. They are very
>> > helpful and
>> > quick to respond, but I never had to use Red Hat's support via email so
>> > I can't
>> > vouch for it.
>> >
>> > Good luck.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Dave Hull
>> > http://insipid.com
>> >
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