[olug] MPAA toolkit

[Sam Tetherow]

DYNATRON tech wrote:
> the internet in general is getting out of hand, not just with nazi mf's like
> RIAA/MPAA.
>
> 'control' of the internet has left the hands of those who created and
> nurtured it.
> now it's in the exploitive hands of big money, and big government.
> can't even do a google search without someone trying to sell you something
> and the NSA watching what you do.
> it's gone from the most powerful reference source ever created, to the
> worlds most tainted marketplace.
> i suppose i'm preaching to the choir here, so i'll stop.
>   
Not to cry bollocks (sorry been getting caught up on LUGRadio) but...

Bollocks!

If it wasn't for big money, big government and google trying to sell you 
something every time you did a search you would still be accessing the 
internet from a vt100 terminal in a computer lab at the university.  Oh, 
wait, if we didn't have big government funding you would still be 
dialing into Compuserve and Prodigy (eeks, dated myself on that one).

The internet prior to about '93 was a fun place, I nice close knit 
community  that knew each other without having to go out too may 
degrees.   You could print off the list containing public FTP sites and 
everyone still carried usenet feeds because you could run an entire news 
feed on a single T1.  As a reference source it was nice if you were 
looking for comp sci, math or physics or wanted something out of the 
Gutenburg project, well that and the Cindy Crawford collection at the 
wustl.edu ftp site, but the most powerful reference source, hardly.

What has made the internet so wonderfully rich in content and character 
is the fact that "big money" can throw resources at it and actually make 
a profit even if many of their hair brained schemes don't.
> don't be surprised to see this type of software enforced by law, not just in
> the university com closet, but also in your telcos.
> it's only going to get worse, time for the next tech revolution.....
>   
I doubt you will see much movement here from a legal standpoint.  There 
was some discussion on a similar topic late last year and early this 
spring at ISPCON.  The proposal was to require ISPs to keep email and 
network traffic laws for a considerable amount of time (something like 1 
to 3 years).  But no one other than a select few in government seen it 
as anything other than another hair brained idea.  The general 
consensus, even from many state attorneys, is that it would not pass 
constitutional muster in a court of law and from a tech standpoint it is 
not very viable due to cost considerations.  That added to the fact that 
ISPs are now required to be CALEA compliant means that the law has 
little benefit unless they can manage to change a wire tap request to be 
retroactive.

The MPAA and the RIAA have shown themselves to be nothing more than 
bullies in these cases and all they seem to be interested in is taking 
peoples lunch money.  The "fines" they assess do not come close to 
renumeration for the loss of revenues if that is what they were really 
after and somehow I strongly doubt that the victims (artists) get any of 
the money from these collections.  I personally would like to see more 
Universities and ISPs stand up to them when the come knocking.

    Sam Tetherow
    Sandhills Wireless

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> On 11/24/07, Carl Lundstedt <clundst at unlserve.unl.edu> wrote:
>   
>> From what I could glean from a cursory scan of the article it looks
>> like it's supposed to watch bittorrent traffic, but not read or log
>> content.
>>
>> So the MPAA assertion is that ALL bittorrent traffic is IP violating
>> traffic?  Am I reading too much in to that?  If I download too many
>> Linux isos, or $DIETY forbid, I upload torrent traffic, I can expect a
>> court order demanding to know what I'm up to?
>>
>> Grumble.
>>
>> Carl
>>     
>>> Oh, joy.
>>>
>>> Well, I wish them the best of luck in getting their spyware onto both
>>> of my Macs, which are FileVault-encrypted and practically under
>>> (software-)lock and (pass)key.
>>>
>>> -Dan
>>>
>>> Quoting Dave Thacker <dthacker9 at cox.net>:
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>>>> I believe UNL is on the list of schools mentioned in this article...
>>>>
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>> http://blog.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2007/11/mpaa_university_toolkit_opens_1.html?nav=rss_blog
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