[olug] College Kid Needs Cisco IOS-based Router

Shawn Mattingly smattin at mimezine.org
Fri Jun 6 22:40:50 UTC 2008 

A good place to pick up used Cisco gear in Omaha is ODI (Optimum Data 
Inc).  They are big ebay sellers of used parts.  I went on a warehouse 
tour of their place once...they are well stocked and generally pretty 
cheap, and if you buy local you don't have to pay shipping/handling/ebay 
fees.

My day job is dealing with the care and feeding of a bunch of 6500 
series switches...the CatOS experience is valuable from a conceptual 
standpoint but not useful from a syntactical sense.  Cisco is phasing 
out CatOS and hybrid mode and moving to IOS across the board, and the 
new Nexus gear runs NX-OS, that being said it sounds like you have a 
passion and interest in networking...it will take you far.  Don't let 
the pursuit of your CS degree beat that out of you :-)  You will be 
bored and question why they aren't teaching you what you want to know 
but ultimately it's worth it.

Shawn
CCNA, CCDA, CNE5/6, Network+ and BS in CS (emphasis on the BS)

DYNATRON tech wrote:
> hey dude.
>
> i've got a cisco 2516.
> i got it to practice my IOS skills as well, but it has outlived it's purpose
> for me.
>
> i'm located south of omaha.
> i didn't pay much for it, so i'm not asking much.
>
> how's 25$ with a DB9 rollover cable included?
> i made the rollover myself, it's RJ-45 rolled directly into a DB9, and it
> works great with hypertrm or whatever you use.
>
>
> On 6/6/08, Kevin <sharpestmarble at gmail.com> wrote:
>   
>> No, getting a job in their IT department would definitely be a good
>> thing; you'll be able to put on your resume that you worked in the IT
>> dept as a freshman, which would be better than as a senior(you should
>> be looking for internships by then).
>>
>> Having IOS, Linux, and Waldo(*grin*) experience would give you a leg
>> up; if they want to move to Linux, they won't have a completely
>> untrained IT help desk staff. Likewise if they want to move you into
>> some of their routing stuff.
>>
>> Where you go after that would depend if you want to go into
>> routing/networking, system administration, or programming. On your
>> resume, emphasize the items that contribute directly to what you'll be
>> doing, and then put the other items in an "Other Skills" section.
>>
>> By looking to get a leg up on the competition, you already have at
>> least half a leg up. When I was at ITT, I saw so many people who were
>> getting an expensive education, but didn't care. I don't know why;
>> they might as well use something they're paying so much for. Some were
>> just out of high school; some were out on their own, and are still
>> working as a checkout clerk at the grocery store.
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Dan Clough <dclough at gmail.com> wrote:
>>     
>>> I see.  Well, either way, I want to get a student job at UNL in their IT
>>> department.  I think having IOS under my belt alongside 5 years of Linux
>>>       
>> and
>>     
>>> 3 years of UNIX-like systems (and then that other one that starts with a
>>> W... Waldo, maybe? Hmm...) would give me a leg up on the competition.
>>>
>>> Am I correct in assuming so or is my youthful ambition leading me astray?
>>> Dan
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: olug-bounces at olug.org [mailto:olug-bounces at olug.org] On Behalf Of
>>> Kevin
>>> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 2:27 PM
>>> To: Omaha Linux User Group
>>> Subject: Re: [olug] College Kid Needs Cisco IOS-based Router
>>>
>>> I don't have any experience with UNL, but when I was at UNO, we didn't
>>> do any networking or system administration at all. That is a place for
>>> programmers. I only set hands on a router or Server 2k3 or DHCP server
>>> when I went to ITT.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 9:08 AM, dthomas at gmail.com <dthomas at gmail.com>
>>>       
>> wrote:
>>     
>>>> This may be a crazy suggestion, but you should get a job!  You'll never
>>>>         
>>> have
>>>       
>>>> enough money to buy the equipment that you want to play with, but your
>>>> employer may.  When you hit the campus in the fall, get a position in a
>>>> computer lab or equivalent and move around from there.  Sounds like you
>>>> already know enough that it shouldn't be a problem.  Universities are
>>>> notorious for having a very um.. interesting.. IT infrastructure.
>>>>
>>>> -Dan
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 2:41 AM, Dan Clough <dclough at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> I'll be going to UNL in the fall for CompSci, and I have a feeling that
>>>>> networking will play a major part in the program.  I've already got
>>>>>           
>>> what's
>>>       
>>>>> essentially a server room set up in my basement, but I want to learn
>>>>>           
>>> more.
>>>       
>>>>> I'm planning on setting up a test lab so I can experiment with a few
>>>>> private
>>>>> netblocks and ASNs.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've mastered CatOS on Catalyst switches (4000 and 5000, at least), and
>>>>>           
>>> the
>>>       
>>>>> next logical step for me is moving up to IOS and getting into
>>>>>           
>> routing.  I
>>     
>>>>> don't want to go the eBay route, since sellers like to strip out
>>>>>           
>>> essential
>>>       
>>>>> parts of the product and sell them separately (Yeah, because a router
>>>>> without a WAN card is so useful) and winning 4 auctions just to get
>>>>> everything I need will be so much more expensive than buying it
>>>>>           
>> locally.
>>     
>>>>> Does anyone have any local Cisco routers that they'd be willing to
>>>>>           
>> sell?
>>     
>>> I
>>>       
>>>>> don't need a BFR, but I'd at least like something that's functional and
>>>>> somewhat modern (no IMP, please) so I can easily adapt to UNL's gear in
>>>>>           
>>> the
>>>       
>>>>> fall.  If you've got a spare router or even some advice, feel free to
>>>>> contact me.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>> Dan
>>>>>
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