[olug] Community Colo Project

Thu Apr 2 20:01:49 UTC 2009

i might have something to bring to the table in terms of billing automation,
i'll have to check first.

On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Curtis LaMasters
<curtislamasters at gmail.com>wrote:

> Why would we even need to be an entity?  I guess I could somehow see
> it as an easier way to bill each other.  Depending on what the total
> cost to do this is, auto billing could be setup to go to an OLUGish
> type account where one of the members would pay
> Cogent/CoSentry/Cox/etc.... Unless I'm totally lost it sounds pretty
> easy to automate.  If we can get a developer talked into it, we could
> start colo.olug.org as a billing portal. :)
>
> I would be in for 5U (1x1U Server and 1x4U server).  I would still
> obviously need to run it past the wife.
>
> Curtis LaMasters
> http://www.curtis-lamasters.com
> http://www.builtnetworks.com
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 2:48 PM, Dan Clough <dclough at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Pain-in-the-ass way it is.  I had articles for a nonprofit typed up, I'll
> start working on articles for a LLC.
> >
> > What should we call it?  The usual "(insert city here) Community
> Colocation Project" or do we want something that hasn't been beaten into the
> ground?
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: "Charles.Bird" <charles.bird at powerdnn.com>
> >
> > Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 14:43:20
> > To: Omaha Linux User Group<olug at olug.org>
> > Subject: Re: [olug] Community Colo Project
> >
> >
> > From my experience, the pain in the ass way is usually the best way.
> > The pain in the ass way might be for us to form our own entity.
> >
> > I'm not a 100K per year super Linux admin(yet?) if I made even 70k I'd
> take
> > it on with my own responsibility.
> > All I can do is contribute cash and time, and some equipment.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 2:32 PM, Dan Clough <dclough at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Figuring out a pricing structure is a priority at this point in time,
> >> but that's currently on hold until we find out what the damage is for
> >> the Pinpoint cage and power circuits.  With all the pledges of equipment
> >> we've seen so far, I doubt our expenses will exceed that of the cage
> >> space, power and bandwidth.
> >>
> >> While we're on the subject of finances, we *really* need to decide what
> >> we're going to do about legal entities.  I've been juggling ideas which
> >> include forming our own nonprofit corporation, piggybacking on another
> >> organization or just dumping it on one person's shoulders.  The last one
> >> is an obvious no-no as I doubt anyone would want to take sole fiscal
> >> responsibility of the venture if it went tits-up.  Ideas?
> >>
> >> Dave Rowe wrote:
> >> > Phil Brutsche wrote:
> >> >> People should be allowed to bring in anything they want (given
> >> >> reasonable hardware constraints - ie 4U or smaller rackmount) as long
> as
> >> >> they maintain their machine(s) properly and bay their bill.
> >> >>
> >> >> I'm just making sure people are performing reality checks, we
> shouldn't
> >> >> be getting any grandiose ideas and ordering a 50Mbps line under the
> >> >> assumption that there will be that many "clients".
> >> >>
> >> >> Dan Clough wrote:
> >> >>> Well, that's just it.  Hopefully it won't just be us, hopefully we
> >> >>> can get people who want colocation or even local web hosting but
> >> >>> can't find it... Even if it means inviting the WUG in... ;)
> >> >>>
> >> >>> We want enough capacity for us to fill and for any other "clients"
> >> >>> we'll hopefully bring on board.  20Meg should be fine.
> >> >
> >> > With that in mind, does someone who has an idea (ballpark is even
> >> > valuable) as to what the monthly cost (+ setup? ie, to help cover the
> >> > Cogent installation?) per U is?  Then, people who might use it can
> >> > evaluate (reply to the list) with what they'd want (no obligation).
> >> > Then, you'd have a better idea of how big the client base is, and what
> >> > the estimated usage would be.
> >> >
> >> > I've throughly enjoyed following this, and see myself as a potential
> >> > 'client' of this, but without knowing the monthly cost, I'm not fully
> >> > 'sold' on it.
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