[olug] Community Colo Project
Dan Clough
dclough at gmail.com
Thu Apr 2 22:31:37 UTC 2009
Hah, I'll throw these out mainly because we won't need to buy new domains:
MiniARPA Networks (I have miniarpa.net)
RedTorch Networks (I have redtorch.org)
I've always wanted to start a business, so I've registered quite a few
domains that I thought sounded cool or just plain wanted... with the
newest addition being clough.tel! ;)
Will Langford wrote:
> OLCOLO - omaha linux colo!OLUC - omana linux user colo
>
> j/k
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 5:01 PM, Dan Clough <dclough at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Sounds like a reasonable possibility. Could you provide some
>> information on your company or a URL? Something in the IT sector would
>> be best, mainly because "John's Floral Arrangements and Datacenter"
>> doesn't flow quite as nicely as I'd like it to.
>>
>> David Walker wrote:
>>> 03601- at bxe1115.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <
>> 49D50F08.5060109 at brutsche.us> <49D5102B.9070006 at roweware.com> <
>> 49D512E9.7070608 at gmail.com>
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>>> One possibility is running it through my company. Obviously we would
>>> want to make sure that we structured everything financially so the risk
>>> to my company would be low and so that there would not be an undue load
>>> on us, but we have an accounting and billing system in place and we have
>>> been around for 9 years this summer.
>>>
>>> I do believe that proper governance and accountability are essential to
>>> this venture. For all of the "community" aspects, such as lower cost,
>>> relaxed specs on rackmount vs tower, there definitely needs to be an
>>> organized structure to keep everything going.
>>>
>>> Setting up and LLC is not too hard but someone would have to manage it
>>> and it would have to be determined who held how many shares and what
>>> that meant. Someone would definitely have to be responsible for billing
>>> and for enforcing the billing requirements
>>>
>>> Dan Clough wrote:
>>>> Figuring out a pricing structure is a priority at this point in time,
>>>> but that's currently on hold until we find out what the damage is for
>>>> the Pinpoint cage and power circuits. With all the pledges of equipment
>>>> we've seen so far, I doubt our expenses will exceed that of the cage
>>>> space, power and bandwidth.
>>>>
>>>> While we're on the subject of finances, we *really* need to decide what
>>>> we're going to do about legal entities. I've been juggling ideas which
>>>> include forming our own nonprofit corporation, piggybacking on another
>>>> organization or just dumping it on one person's shoulders. The last one
>>>> is an obvious no-no as I doubt anyone would want to take sole fiscal
>>>> responsibility of the venture if it went tits-up. Ideas?
>>>>
>>>> Dave Rowe wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Phil Brutsche wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> People should be allowed to bring in anything they want (given
>>>>>> reasonable hardware constraints - ie 4U or smaller rackmount) as long
>> as
>>>>>> they maintain their machine(s) properly and bay their bill.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm just making sure people are performing reality checks, we
>> shouldn't
>>>>>> be getting any grandiose ideas and ordering a 50Mbps line under the
>>>>>> assumption that there will be that many "clients".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dan Clough wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well, that's just it. Hopefully it won't just be us, hopefully we
>>>>>>> can get people who want colocation or even local web hosting but
>>>>>>> can't find it... Even if it means inviting the WUG in... ;)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We want enough capacity for us to fill and for any other "clients"
>>>>>>> we'll hopefully bring on board. 20Meg should be fine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>> With that in mind, does someone who has an idea (ballpark is even
>>>>> valuable) as to what the monthly cost (+ setup? ie, to help cover the
>>>>> Cogent installation?) per U is? Then, people who might use it can
>>>>> evaluate (reply to the list) with what they'd want (no obligation).
>>>>> Then, you'd have a better idea of how big the client base is, and what
>>>>> the estimated usage would be.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've throughly enjoyed following this, and see myself as a potential
>>>>> 'client' of this, but without knowing the monthly cost, I'm not fully
>>>>> 'sold' on it.
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>>> One possibility is running it through my company. Obviously we
>> would
>>> want to make sure that we structured everything financially so the risk
>>> to my company would be low and so that there would not be an undue load
>>> on us, but we have an accounting and billing system in place and we
>>> have been around for 9 years this summer.<br>
>>> <br>
>>> I do believe that proper governance and accountability are essential to
>>> this venture. For all of the "community" aspects, such as lower
>> cost,
>>> relaxed specs on rackmount vs tower, there definitely needs to be an
>>> organized structure to keep everything going.<br>
>>> <br>
>>> Setting up and LLC is not too hard but someone would have to manage it
>>> and it would have to be determined who held how many shares and what
>>> that meant. Someone would definitely have to be responsible for
>>> billing and for enforcing the billing requirements<br>
>>> <br>
>>> Dan Clough wrote:
>>> <blockquote cite="mid:49D512E9.7070608 at gmail.com<mid%3A49D512E9.7070608 at gmail.com>"
>> type="cite">
>>> <pre wrap="">Figuring out a pricing structure is a priority at this
>> point in time,
>>> but that's currently on hold until we find out what the damage is for
>>> the Pinpoint cage and power circuits. With all the pledges of equipment
>>> we've seen so far, I doubt our expenses will exceed that of the cage
>>> space, power and bandwidth.
>>>
>>> While we're on the subject of finances, we *really* need to decide what
>>> we're going to do about legal entities. I've been juggling ideas which
>>> include forming our own nonprofit corporation, piggybacking on another
>>> organization or just dumping it on one person's shoulders. The last one
>>> is an obvious no-no as I doubt anyone would want to take sole fiscal
>>> responsibility of the venture if it went tits-up. Ideas?
>>>
>>> Dave Rowe wrote:
>>> </pre>
>>> <blockquote type="cite">
>>> <pre wrap="">Phil Brutsche wrote:
>>> </pre>
>>> <blockquote type="cite">
>>> <pre wrap="">People should be allowed to bring in anything they
>> want (given
>>> reasonable hardware constraints - ie 4U or smaller rackmount) as long as
>>> they maintain their machine(s) properly and bay their bill.
>>>
>>> I'm just making sure people are performing reality checks, we shouldn't
>>> be getting any grandiose ideas and ordering a 50Mbps line under the
>>> assumption that there will be that many "clients".
>>>
>>> Dan Clough wrote:
>>> </pre>
>>> <blockquote type="cite">
>>> <pre wrap="">Well, that's just it. Hopefully it won't just be
>> us, hopefully we
>>> can get people who want colocation or even local web hosting but
>>> can't find it... Even if it means inviting the WUG in... ;)
>>>
>>> We want enough capacity for us to fill and for any other "clients"
>>> we'll hopefully bring on board. 20Meg should be fine.
>>> </pre>
>>> </blockquote>
>>> </blockquote>
>>> <pre wrap="">With that in mind, does someone who has an idea
>> (ballpark is even
>>> valuable) as to what the monthly cost (+ setup? ie, to help cover the
>>> Cogent installation?) per U is? Then, people who might use it can
>>> evaluate (reply to the list) with what they'd want (no obligation).
>>> Then, you'd have a better idea of how big the client base is, and what
>>> the estimated usage would be.
>>>
>>> I've throughly enjoyed following this, and see myself as a potential
>>> 'client' of this, but without knowing the monthly cost, I'm not fully
>>> 'sold' on it.
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> OLUG mailing list
>>> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:OLUG at olug.org">
>> OLUG at olug.org</a>
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