[olug] Community Colo Project

Aric aric at omahax.com
Fri Apr 3 22:54:06 UTC 2009 

WOW I have a lot of reading to do.....went camping/fishing

I just registered omahax.org
I like how it gives Omaha both a posix "X" and you can pronounce it like
oh-ma-hax.
....or you could just pretend it to be "Omaha Exchange"

I'll toss up a joomla site/forum tonight or tomorrow.
It will be at omahax.org when it is there.....

Sound good?......

Aric Aasgaard
aric at omahax.com
990-1000

-----Original Message-----
From: olug-bounces at olug.org [mailto:olug-bounces at olug.org] On Behalf Of
Charles.Bird
Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 9:26 AM
To: dclough at gmail.com; Omaha Linux User Group
Subject: Re: [olug] Community Colo Project

something like OmahaIX.org?



On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Dan Clough <dclough at gmail.com> wrote:

> I like Omaha Internet Exchange.
>
> Simple, to the point and flexible enough for whatever we do in the future.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Charles.Bird" <charles.bird at powerdnn.com>
>
> Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 08:36:25
> To: Omaha Linux User Group<olug at olug.org>
> Subject: Re: [olug] Community Colo Project
>
>
> I dont know if I missed it or not, was there a name choosen yet?
> Omaha 1337 Consortium?? lol
> Omaha Area Internet Exchange  "OAIX"  because some day we will have
> multiple
> 10GbE right?
> 13 0 13's House   (Slackware and Subgenuis ppl better get that one)
> i dunno, just some ideas.
>
> Time for me to ghost a bunch of machines! zzzzzz.....
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 8:01 AM, Charles.Bird <charles.bird at powerdnn.com
> >wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 5:31 PM, Dan Clough <dclough at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hah, I'll throw these out mainly because we won't need to buy new
> domains:
> >>
> >> MiniARPA Networks (I have miniarpa.net)
> >> RedTorch Networks (I have redtorch.org)
> >>
> >> I've always wanted to start a business, so I've registered quite a few
> >> domains that I thought sounded cool or just plain wanted... with the
> >> newest addition being clough.tel! ;)
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > I have ColdIsle.com .net and .org
> >
> > I thought it was a cool name, no pun intended. :D
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Will Langford wrote:
> >> > OLCOLO - omaha linux colo!OLUC - omana linux user colo
> >> >
> >> > j/k
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 5:01 PM, Dan Clough <dclough at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Sounds like a reasonable possibility.  Could you provide some
> >> >> information on your company or a URL?  Something in the IT sector
> would
> >> >> be best, mainly because "John's Floral Arrangements and Datacenter"
> >> >> doesn't flow quite as nicely as I'd like it to.
> >> >>
> >> >> David Walker wrote:
> >> >>> 03601- at bxe1115.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>       <
> >> >> 49D50F08.5060109 at brutsche.us>  <49D5102B.9070006 at roweware.com> <
> >> >> 49D512E9.7070608 at gmail.com>
> >> >>> In-Reply-To: <49D512E9.7070608 at gmail.com>
> >> >>> Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
> >> >>>  boundary="------------020907050803020109050906"
> >> >>>
> >> >>> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
> >> >>> --------------020907050803020109050906
> >> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >> >>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> >> >>>
> >> >>> One possibility is running it through my company.  Obviously we
> would
> >> >>> want to make sure that we structured everything financially so the
> >> risk
> >> >>> to my company would be low and so that there would not be an undue
> >> load
> >> >>> on us, but we have an accounting and billing system in place and we
> >> have
> >> >>> been around for 9 years this summer.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I do believe that proper governance and accountability are
essential
> >> to
> >> >>> this venture.  For all of the "community" aspects, such as lower
> cost,
> >> >>> relaxed specs on rackmount vs tower, there definitely needs to be
an
> >> >>> organized structure to keep everything going.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Setting up and LLC is not too hard but someone would have to manage
> it
> >> >>> and it would have to be determined who held how many shares and
what
> >> >>> that meant.  Someone would definitely have to be responsible for
> >> billing
> >> >>> and for enforcing the billing requirements
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Dan Clough wrote:
> >> >>>> Figuring out a pricing structure is a priority at this point in
> time,
> >> >>>> but that's currently on hold until we find out what the damage is
> for
> >> >>>> the Pinpoint cage and power circuits.  With all the pledges of
> >> equipment
> >> >>>> we've seen so far, I doubt our expenses will exceed that of the
> cage
> >> >>>> space, power and bandwidth.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> While we're on the subject of finances, we *really* need to decide
> >> what
> >> >>>> we're going to do about legal entities.  I've been juggling ideas
> >> which
> >> >>>> include forming our own nonprofit corporation, piggybacking on
> >> another
> >> >>>> organization or just dumping it on one person's shoulders.  The
> last
> >> one
> >> >>>> is an obvious no-no as I doubt anyone would want to take sole
> fiscal
> >> >>>> responsibility of the venture if it went tits-up.  Ideas?
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Dave Rowe wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>> Phil Brutsche wrote:
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>> People should be allowed to bring in anything they want (given
> >> >>>>>> reasonable hardware constraints - ie 4U or smaller rackmount) as
> >> long
> >> >> as
> >> >>>>>> they maintain their machine(s) properly and bay their bill.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> I'm just making sure people are performing reality checks, we
> >> >> shouldn't
> >> >>>>>> be getting any grandiose ideas and ordering a 50Mbps line under
> the
> >> >>>>>> assumption that there will be that many "clients".
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Dan Clough wrote:
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> Well, that's just it.  Hopefully it won't just be us, hopefully
> we
> >> >>>>>>> can get people who want colocation or even local web hosting
but
> >> >>>>>>> can't find it... Even if it means inviting the WUG in... ;)
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> We want enough capacity for us to fill and for any other
> "clients"
> >> >>>>>>> we'll hopefully bring on board.  20Meg should be fine.
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>> With that in mind, does someone who has an idea (ballpark is even
> >> >>>>> valuable) as to what the monthly cost (+ setup? ie, to help cover
> >> the
> >> >>>>> Cogent installation?) per U is?  Then, people who might use it
can
> >> >>>>> evaluate (reply to the list) with what they'd want (no
> obligation).
> >> >>>>> Then, you'd have a better idea of how big the client base is, and
> >> what
> >> >>>>> the estimated usage would be.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> I've throughly enjoyed following this, and see myself as a
> potential
> >> >>>>> 'client' of this, but without knowing the monthly cost, I'm not
> >> fully
> >> >>>>> 'sold' on it.
> >> >>>>> _______________________________________________
> >> >>>>> OLUG mailing list
> >> >>>>> OLUG at olug.org
> >> >>>>> https://lists.olug.org/mailman/listinfo/olug
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >> >>>> OLUG mailing list
> >> >>>> OLUG at olug.org
> >> >>>> https://lists.olug.org/mailman/listinfo/olug
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>
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> >> >>> Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >> >>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> >> >>>
> >> >>> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
> >> >>> <html>
> >> >>> <head>
> >> >>>   <meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1"
> >> http-equiv="Content-Type">
> >> >>>   <title></title>
> >> >>> </head>
> >> >>> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">
> >> >>> One possibility is running it through my company.  Obviously
we
> >> >> would
> >> >>> want to make sure that we structured everything financially so the
> >> risk
> >> >>> to my company would be low and so that there would not be an undue
> >> load
> >> >>> on us, but we have an accounting and billing system in place and we
> >> >>> have been around for 9 years this summer.<br>
> >> >>> <br>
> >> >>> I do believe that proper governance and accountability are
essential
> >> to
> >> >>> this venture.  For all of the "community" aspects, such as
> lower
> >> >> cost,
> >> >>> relaxed specs on rackmount vs tower, there definitely needs to be
an
> >> >>> organized structure to keep everything going.<br>
> >> >>> <br>
> >> >>> Setting up and LLC is not too hard but someone would have to manage
> it
> >> >>> and it would have to be determined who held how many shares and
what
> >> >>> that meant.  Someone would definitely have to be responsible
> for
> >> >>> billing and for enforcing the billing requirements<br>
> >> >>> <br>
> >> >>> Dan Clough wrote:
> >> >>> <blockquote
cite="mid:49D512E9.7070608 at gmail.com<mid%3A49D512E9.7070608 at gmail.com>
> <mid%3A49D512E9.7070608 at gmail.com <mid%253A49D512E9.7070608 at gmail.com>>
> >> <mid%3A49D512E9.7070608 at gmail.com <mid%253A49D512E9.7070608 at gmail.com><
> mid%253A49D512E9.7070608 at gmail.com <mid%25253A49D512E9.7070608 at gmail.com>
> >>"
> >> >> type="cite">
> >> >>>   <pre wrap="">Figuring out a pricing structure is a priority at
> this
> >> >> point in time,
> >> >>> but that's currently on hold until we find out what the damage is
> for
> >> >>> the Pinpoint cage and power circuits.  With all the pledges of
> >> equipment
> >> >>> we've seen so far, I doubt our expenses will exceed that of the
cage
> >> >>> space, power and bandwidth.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> While we're on the subject of finances, we *really* need to decide
> >> what
> >> >>> we're going to do about legal entities.  I've been juggling ideas
> >> which
> >> >>> include forming our own nonprofit corporation, piggybacking on
> another
> >> >>> organization or just dumping it on one person's shoulders.  The
last
> >> one
> >> >>> is an obvious no-no as I doubt anyone would want to take sole
fiscal
> >> >>> responsibility of the venture if it went tits-up.  Ideas?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Dave Rowe wrote:
> >> >>>   </pre>
> >> >>>   <blockquote type="cite">
> >> >>>     <pre wrap="">Phil Brutsche wrote:
> >> >>>     </pre>
> >> >>>     <blockquote type="cite">
> >> >>>       <pre wrap="">People should be allowed to bring in anything
> they
> >> >> want (given
> >> >>> reasonable hardware constraints - ie 4U or smaller rackmount) as
> long
> >> as
> >> >>> they maintain their machine(s) properly and bay their bill.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I'm just making sure people are performing reality checks, we
> >> shouldn't
> >> >>> be getting any grandiose ideas and ordering a 50Mbps line under the
> >> >>> assumption that there will be that many "clients".
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Dan Clough wrote:
> >> >>>       </pre>
> >> >>>       <blockquote type="cite">
> >> >>>         <pre wrap="">Well, that's just it.  Hopefully it won't just
> be
> >> >> us, hopefully we
> >> >>> can get people who want colocation or even local web hosting but
> >> >>> can't find it... Even if it means inviting the WUG in... ;)
> >> >>>
> >> >>> We want enough capacity for us to fill and for any other "clients"
> >> >>> we'll hopefully bring on board.  20Meg should be fine.
> >> >>>         </pre>
> >> >>>       </blockquote>
> >> >>>     </blockquote>
> >> >>>     <pre wrap="">With that in mind, does someone who has an idea
> >> >> (ballpark is even
> >> >>> valuable) as to what the monthly cost (+ setup? ie, to help cover
> the
> >> >>> Cogent installation?) per U is?  Then, people who might use it can
> >> >>> evaluate (reply to the list) with what they'd want (no obligation).
> >> >>> Then, you'd have a better idea of how big the client base is, and
> what
> >> >>> the estimated usage would be.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I've throughly enjoyed following this, and see myself as a
potential
> >> >>> 'client' of this, but without knowing the monthly cost, I'm not
> fully
> >> >>> 'sold' on it.
> >> >>> _______________________________________________
> >> >>> OLUG mailing list
> >> >>> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:OLUG at olug.org">
> >> >> OLUG at olug.org</a>
> >> >>> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="
> >> >> https://lists.olug.org/mailman/listinfo/olug">
> >> >> https://lists.olug.org/mailman/listinfo/olug</a>
> >> >>>     </pre>
> >> >>>   </blockquote>
> >> >>>   <pre
> wrap=""><!---->_______________________________________________
> >> >>> OLUG mailing list
> >> >>> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:OLUG at olug.org">
> >> >> OLUG at olug.org</a>
> >> >>> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="
> >> >> https://lists.olug.org/mailman/listinfo/olug">
> >> >> https://lists.olug.org/mailman/listinfo/olug</a>
> >> >>>   </pre>
> >> >>> </blockquote>
> >> >>> <br>
> >> >>> </body>
> >> >>> </html>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> --------------020907050803020109050906--
> >> >>> _______________________________________________
> >> >>> OLUG mailing list
> >> >>> OLUG at olug.org
> >> >>> https://lists.olug.org/mailman/listinfo/olug
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> >> >> OLUG mailing list
> >> >> OLUG at olug.org
> >> >> https://lists.olug.org/mailman/listinfo/olug
> >> >>
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > OLUG mailing list
> >> > OLUG at olug.org
> >> > https://lists.olug.org/mailman/listinfo/olug
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> OLUG mailing list
> >> OLUG at olug.org
> >> https://lists.olug.org/mailman/listinfo/olug
> >>
> >
> >
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