[olug] Looking for pre-built Linux desktops

[DYNATRON tech]

without reference, the ACPI compatability is still a crapshoot, and that can
make a huge difference on a laptop.


On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 4:37 PM, T. J. Brumfield <enderandrew at gmail.com>wrote:

> Aric has a point to an extent, but I'm not sure it matters in this case.
>
> Dell will likely use 5 different hard drive vendors for a particular
> model. On a laptop they might offer a choice of different wireless
> cards. On any PC they might offer a choice of video cards. And they
> all use tons of different vendors for optical drives.
>
> From an OS standpoint, so long as you have the same chipset, and NIC,
> you should be in business. Your OS doesn't care about optical drive
> vendors, or hard drive vendors. And you can order all your builds with
> the same video card.
>
> You're not going to get perfect hardware standardization. And most
> businesses claim to care about this, but they don't really mean it.
> What they want is the peace of mind to turn to one vendor to deal with
> hardware issues. They don't care if they have 10 different models of
> Dells as desktops spread around their enterprise so long as Dell
> provides a support contract on all of their hardware.
>
> Let your boss order you a new Vista machine. You'll qualify for a free
> Windows 7 upgrade. And you can easily set it up to dual-boot with
> Linux, or set up a VM.
>
> -- T. J. Brumfield
>
> On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 4:30 PM, Aric Aasgaard<aric at omahax.com> wrote:
> > Good luck getting hardware standardization from a big OEM without a
> special
> > order from a systems architect.  I don't even think it is possible.  DELL
> > and HP throw whatever in a system.... They have contracts with the parts
> > MFGs so XX% of systems built will use Y MFG's parts to keep competition
> and
> > redundancy in the supply chain.  You'll also get whatever stepping CPU
> > happened to be on the top of the pile.  It is even difficult to find out
> > what chipset is in a particular model desktop using Dell's site....
> >
> > A quick way to prove my point on how non-standardized they are..... Put
> in a
> > Dell service tag into Dell support site and look at the drivers and
> firmware
> > that might by in your system.....
> >
> > So to actually have hardware standardization you will need to talk to a
> > specialist and have a special model run done for your company and if you
> > bother to do that you can have them put whatever OS you want on the
> systems.
> >
> > Bottom line.... it is BS plain and simple... My advice, just find a model
> > that has the drivers in the Linux kernel.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: olug-bounces at olug.org [mailto:olug-bounces at olug.org] On Behalf Of
> Joe
> > Gulizia
> > Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 10:32 PM
> > To: Omaha Linux Users Group; wftl-lug at salmar.com
> > Subject: [olug] Looking for pre-built Linux desktops
> >
> > I'm looking for a pre-built linux desktop.  Looked at the Dell
> site...hard
> > to find and then didn't find any cheap ones other than FreeDOS  OS...was
> > hoping for Ubuntu/Kubuntu...(with Windows in a VM mode  already
> configured
> > would be nice).
> >
> > Boss was talking moving me to Windows....cheaper, easier to find
> machines.
> > Standardization  BS.
> >
> > Joe
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