[olug] starting broadband ISP, any suggestions?

Mon Aug 20 13:26:17 UTC 2012

Talk to these people: http://spiral-communications.com/

On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 3:57 AM, Rob Townley <rob.townley at gmail.com> wrote:
> Not sure what you are asking, but ubnt.com has some cool wireless
> stuff and starting to incorporate GPS into equipment to help maximize
> signal-to-noise ratio. It would be worth it to register and poke
> around in their forums even if you do not use their stuff.
>
> 100Mbps long range 50km wireless using their AirMax stuff.
> Line-of-sight, but i wonder if you could get substantial bandwidth
> even when not line-of-sight.  Since bullet Ms are inexpensive ($50),
> it would be worth buying several to test out.  Let me know how dead-on
> line-of-sight accurate is actually required.
> http://www.ubnt.com/airmax#bulletm
>
>
> ubiquiti's airfiber is not microwave as it 24GhZ (yes, that is right,
> no decimal. twenty-four GhZ) and claims to support 1GB wireless to
> 13km.  Line-of-sight.  Developed from a former Motorola team.
> http://www.ubnt.com/airfiber
>
> i had trouble finding a distributor that would actually sell me a
> bullet m when i first tried a year or so ago.  But now,
> http://www.microcom.us/bullet5.html sells several versions.  So no, i
> do NOT have any real experience with this long range hardware, but
> would be interested to see what you find.  If you are within 50km of
> the Westroads, i might be willing to test.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 12:51 AM, Justin Reiners <justin at hotlinesinc.com> wrote:
>> line of site wireless is the dream, that is more my bosses realm, I just
>> move packets. he leases space on his tower to many different companies. He
>> thinks he can do some type of directional microwave transmission, said it
>> will easily support his speeds he is looking for.
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 12:49 AM, Jason N <dashrender at cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>> how are you going to get from your tower to the clients?
>>>
>>>
>>> ---- Justin Reiners <justin at hotlinesinc.com> wrote:
>>> Ohh, touche, I guess on cox and such everyone is on the same network (for
>>> the most part), just firewalled on the client side (we hope :) ) so you
>>> think regular off the shelf (meaning cisco and such, not linksys or
>>> netgear) routers and switches. good good. My boss has checked on his pipe,
>>> can get it for about 9 grand a month, (1Gigabit, multiple fiber drops
>>> already exist at his tower.)
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 12:27 AM, Kevin <sharpestmarble at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > What if some business that you provide service to wants to contact some
>>> > other business you provide service to? i.e. A small business that hosts
>>> > their own website or mail server?
>>> > On Aug 20, 2012 12:23 AM, "Justin Reiners" <justin at hotlinesinc.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > The upstream bandwidth will be fiber, 1 gigabit, already priced. The
>>> > users
>>> > > will be business users, requiring at least 50/50, or whatever they
>>> need.
>>> > > their will be 100Mb users as well. I would like all users (businesses)
>>> IP
>>> > > to be segregated for security reasons. all businesses will need static
>>> > > public IPs. Last mile will be microwave.
>>> > >
>>> > > On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 12:17 AM, Kevin <sharpestmarble at gmail.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > > What is your upstream bandwidth like? Fiber? From who? They are the
>>> > > people
>>> > > > you'll need to buy your IPs from. You don't need to buy a public IP
>>> for
>>> > > > everyone, just use NAT(assuming they're home users), although there
>>> are
>>> > > > some who would take issue with that. Some of those who would take
>>> issue
>>> > > are
>>> > > > people of this list.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Routing could be done using a Linux box. You'd need multiple
>>> > interfaces,
>>> > > > and you'd want it to be redundant, although you'd want that as part
>>> of
>>> > > any
>>> > > > setup you would use. Play with iptables some to get it set up and
>>> > running
>>> > > > properly.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > What kind of networks will you be running that you'll want to keep
>>> > > > separate?
>>> > > >
>>> > > > On Aug 19, 2012 11:57 PM, "Justin Reiners" <justin at hotlinesinc.com>
>>> > > wrote:
>>> > > >
>>> > > > > Hey eveyone, weird question, I have done my googling, to no avail.
>>> I
>>> > > was
>>> > > > > wondering if anyone here works for an ISP, or has the understanding
>>> > of
>>> > > > > first time setup. My boss have come to me with a task, He is
>>> looking
>>> > > for
>>> > > > > starting an ISP in his home town, as there are no, 100MB+ isps in
>>> the
>>> > > > area,
>>> > > > > connection type is fixed wireless, or microwave. He owns a tower in
>>> > > IA, I
>>> > > > > cannot say where exactly it is located because he hosts things for
>>> > the
>>> > > > CIA,
>>> > > > > FBI and such. He also has fiber to the building, unused at the
>>> > moment,
>>> > > > and
>>> > > > > he also has all the capital he needs to get it going. I have some
>>> > > > > questions, He wants to start with 1Gb of bandwidth, and knows
>>> plenty
>>> > of
>>> > > > > businesses in the area that are looking to go faster.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > 1. When the fiber is installed, will we be left with a 1Gigabit
>>> > > Ethernet
>>> > > > > port I route off of?
>>> > > > > 2. I assume we will need to buy public IPs. any idea on the costs?
>>> > > > > 3. What types of switches and routers do you recommend, (hoping it
>>> is
>>> > > > just
>>> > > > > ethernet) (number of users will be around 20 at first, then the sky
>>> > is
>>> > > > the
>>> > > > > limit.)
>>> > > > > 4. can the routing be done using a linux box?
>>> > > > > 5. Can multiple users use the same directional antenna?
>>> > > > > 6. How can we keep networks seperate?
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > Any help will be appreciated. I am hoping someone in the group
>>> works
>>> > > with
>>> > > > > this type of thing. google has not been much help, I find a lot of
>>> > OLD
>>> > > > ISP
>>> > > > > pages, talking of dialup modems of such. lol.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > --
>>> > > > > Justin Reiners
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>>> > > > > www.MrCycleParts.com
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