[olug] OT - Windows network question
Dan Staehr
staehrmedia at neb.rr.com
Thu Nov 15 15:15:13 UTC 2012
Jason, Sam and all,
I didn't design the network.
The network documentation states DSL modem is setup in Bridge mode with
the Linksys RVS4000 as the gateway handling the PPoE Authentication.
The volume licenses are for the Office 2007 Suites and the Windows
Server. It appears the OS for the Workstations, Windows 7 Pro is OEM to
each.
The non-profit put together the network as part of a grant project. So
all of the workstations are the same, Dell Vostro 220s computers.
I don't have details from the non-profit as to whether the systems they
are planning to sell will be going to another non-profit.
Also, should I go to the trouble to remove the cabling currently in
place? At least the short runs?
Thanks for your helpful advice, and my apologies for posting in a Linux
group.
Dan Staehr, President
Staehr Media Services
6117 NW 4th Street
Lincoln, NE 68521-3774
402-440-5869
On 11/15/2012 8:02 AM, Jason N wrote:
> Interesting. I'm guessing you didn't design their network.
>
> So no real firewall eh? Seem completely outside the norm for today's businesses. OK some might argue that the Linksys is a firewall, and that's true - but it's certainly not anywhere near what a typical small business uses.
>
> I would not move to a Wireless DSL modem. If the current Linksys router does not have wireless built into it, I'd replace it with one that does. Let the ISP provide internet service, don't let them control your network.
>
> You can probably skip the switch, dub the hub for sure! Assuming 4 machines it sounds like you'll have something like the following:
> DSL - Linksys wireless router - Server on port 1, workstation on port 2 and wireless to the remaining devices.
>
> Are you sure the workstations OS is volume license? In an environment this small that seems pretty odd. I wouldn't be surprised if the server OS and the applications (MS Office) were all volume licenses. If the Workstations have stickers on them with the name of an OS, you can reinstall that OS on the machine and then sell it with no worries. If the office has Volume licenses for MS Office, etc don't install those before selling the machine.
>
> Volume licenses can be transferred, but it's a pain in the rear. Also if they are non profit licenses, there are limits to whom you can transfer them to.
>
>
> -Jason
>
>
> ---- Dan Staehr <staehrmedia at neb.rr.com> wrote:
> Some clarification...
>
> Currently the network is a wired setup, with the DSL modem, then a
> linksys router, a switch and hub..I believe a cross over to the server,
> a Dell PowerEdge, running VMware Esxi for Base OS, and Windows Server
> 2008 for the server OS.
>
> There have been 8 workstations in the past, but the network will shrink
> to 3, maybe 4 workstations in the new office location which will be
> much, much smaller, hence the idea to go wireless rather than wired if
> possible.
>
> I might opt for a wireless DSL modem, but run wired to the server. Thus
> eliminate the router, will I still need the hub and switch setup?
>
> As for the current server shares, I would go in and remove the unused
> shares.
>
> The current machines are on a volume license, but I doubt they can
> legally be transferred to a new owner, but haven't researched that, so
> its either nuke the drives of the extra computers and offer them without
> OS or replace with ubuntu or some other Linux distro.
>
> I mainly work with PC's and have set up peer to peer, non-server
> networks for the most part, with shared internet access. So my server
> based network experience is limited.
>
> Dan Staehr, President
> Staehr Media Services
> 6117 NW 4th Street
> Lincoln, NE 68521-3774
> 402-440-5869
>
> On 11/14/2012 6:27 PM, dashrender at cox.net wrote:
>> If you are not putting windows back on those machines, you can nuke
>> them however you want, then install ubuntu.
>>
>> As for wireless, if the machines are desktops and don't have wireless
>> cards in them you will have to purchase either internal or USB
>> wireless adapters for them.
>>
>> If the office is small enough you can probably get away with a linkage
>> wireless access point. You should disable DHCP on it and not use the
>> WAN/Internet port. Have your windows server provide DHCP to all
>> client machines.
>>
>> What are you using for a firewall?
>>
>> You mentioned connecting the DSL to wireless, what did you mean?
>>
>> Sent from my HTC smartphone on the Now Network from Sprint!
>>
>> ----- Reply message -----
>> From: "Sheldon, Roger W" <Roger.Sheldon at firstdata.com>
>> To: "Omaha Linux User Group" <olug at olug.org>, "staehrmedia at neb.rr.com"
>> <staehrmedia at neb.rr.com>
>> Subject: [olug] OT - Windows network question
>> Date: Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:31 pm
>>
>>
>> Dariks Boot n nuke yeh for sure. As far as wiping the drives and
>> reusing the license keys on a different machine? Hmmm I don't think
>> Micro$oft allows this unless you have a volume license key or
>> something of the sorts. I could be wrong again tho.
>>
>> Roger Sheldon
>> Storage Engineer
>> wk 402.777.7901
>> cell 402.889.2585
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: olug-bounces at olug.org [mailto:olug-bounces at olug.org] On Behalf
>> Of Justin Reiners
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 4:57 PM
>> To: staehrmedia at neb.rr.com; Omaha Linux User Group
>> Subject: Re: [olug] OT - Windows network question
>>
>> boot n nuke for the drives, what kind of question do you have about
>> wireless networking? what distances are we talking?
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 4:19 PM, Dan Staehr <staehrmedia at neb.rr.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Howdy,
>>>
>>> I realize this is a Linux group but I'm sure some of you can probably
>>> steer me the right direction.
>>>
>>> I'm helping out a local non-profit who is moving to a new office. I
>>> spent the day yesterday documenting their network and workstations.
>>> They are reducing their network size from 8 machines to 4, including
>> a file server.
>>> The server is using Windows Server and VmWare.
>>> Fortunately all of the workstations and the server are only a couple
>>> of years old. All of the workstations are Win 7 boxes.
>>>
>>> Question is one of configuring their DSL along with server wirelessly,
>>> since their new office won't be easy to pull wire in. I do plan to
>>> have a wired connection to at least one of the workstations and to the
>>> server and router.
>>>
>>> Also, for the computers they are planning to sell, what is the easiest
>>> way to clean the drives, and can the current OS's be reloaded. I'd
>>> like to clean the drives, and reload them with Ubuntu maybe.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
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