[olug] Samba, Windows clients, and pulling my hair out

Kevin sharpestmarble at gmail.com
Wed Jan 23 14:37:02 UTC 2013


It does disconnect those sessions immediately, but then the system
still has a residual TCP connection that also has to go away before
you can continue.

On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 8:11 AM, Rob Townley <rob.townley at gmail.com> wrote:
> Good point about multiple credentials.
> *net use Z: /delete*
> net use \\MachineName\PRINT$ /delete
> disconnects those sessions immediately.
>
> HOSTS was missing just the hostname as well:
> 192.168.0.1 terwilliker.com terwilliker <http://terwilliker.com>
>
> On WinVista and above, the split tokens in the elevated command prompt
> versus the normal command prompt can cause a great deal of issues as well.
>
> Windows does not use NETBIOS by default anymore.  When DNS is setup
> properly, NETBIOS is not needed unless there are some very old windows
> machines or windows software.  But then how do you manage DNS in the home?
> dd-wrt has a built in DNS server in the form of dnsmasq.conf  Otherwise,
> open 5353 on host firewalls for mutlicast dns and man -k avahi.
>
> Thanks for sharing the smb.conf files, it is amazing how many parameters
> are available.
>
> So are you a mean piano teacher or something?
> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0045464/plotsummary
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 1:36 AM, Kevin <sharpestmarble at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> IIRC, SMB doesn't have any mechanism for re-authenticating. So once you
>> connect as guest, you're connected as guest until that connection is
>> allowed to lapse. This means unmounting any mapped network drives, closing
>> anything opened via UNC, and not accessing them for a while(5 mins, I
>> think).
>> On Jan 22, 2013 10:18 PM, "Lou Duchez" <lou at paprikash.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Mostly I'm posting this in case anyone else is having trouble with Samba.
>> >  I think I got it worked out.
>> >
>> > I set up a Samba share, I gave it a NetBIOS name, I figured out how to
>> let
>> > it allow guest access (no particular authentication).  So far so good.
>> >  Then I tried setting up another share, but requiring authentication.  No
>> > matter how much I tried, I couldn't get a Windows computer to
>> authenticate.
>> >  When I tried to connect from the Windows command line, after entering
>> the
>> > password, I would get the super-helpful message "System error 5 has
>> > occurred".
>> >
>> > My first clue as to what was going on was the fact that I could
>> > authenticate if I used the server's IP address rather than the NetBIOS
>> name
>> > I'd assigned it.
>> >
>> > Here is the long and short of it: I was trying to get to my Samba share
>> > via its NetBIOS name -- "\\TERWILLIKER\protectedshare" or whatever -- and
>> > that's not a good move.  Windows has trouble keeping track of the Samba
>> > share via NetBIOS, such that it may be able to find the share and try to
>> > authenticate, but then it gets all confused.  If you're going to rely on
>> > NetBIOS, you also probably have to go to the trouble of setting up a WINS
>> > server to support your NetBIOS name, otherwise your clients are going to
>> > connect inconsistently at best.  You can't even get around it by putting
>> an
>> > entry in \Windows\System32\Drivers\Etc\**Hosts, because that depends upon
>> > Windows being bright enough to consistently recognize your NetBIOS name
>> as
>> > such and not just a zone to prepend to your domain name.
>> >
>> > What you CAN do is assign a FQDN to your server; that's something Windows
>> > and Linux see eye-to-eye on.  You can even put the FQDN in your
>> > \Windows\System32\Drivers\Etc\**Hosts; it'd look something like this:
>> >
>> > 192.168.0.1 terwilliker.com
>> >
>> > So after that you'd access your share like:
>> >
>> > \\terwilliker.com\**protectedshare
>> >
>> > or even
>> >
>> > \\192.168.0.1\protectedshare
>> >
>> > After that, Samba seems to work per the documentation.
>> >
>> >
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