[olug] August Talk

[Dave Rowe]

"root" in this sense has changed slightly to also generally include
unlocking bootloaders - which is a separate step.  So, you can have
"root" without the custom ROM, but generally speaking, you can't have
the custom ROM without root.

Blocking carrier specific junk / bloat would require the custom ROM.

-Dave

On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Obi-Wan <obiwan at jedi.com> wrote:
> I think some of you are confusing "rooting" with "installing a custom ROM."  Rooting, by itself, does nothing much.  It just gives you increased access permission, like having root on you linux box.  Custom ROMs are akin to installing linux over top of Windows on your PC.
>
>
> Ben "Obi-Wan" Hollingsworth, www.Jedi.com
> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note® II
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Ben Watson <bwatson1979 at gmail.com>
> Date: 2013/07/03  9:45 AM  (GMT-06:00)
> To: Omaha Linux User Group <olug at olug.org>
> Subject: Re: [olug] August Talk
>
> I was a root monger with my old Motorola Droid, but haven't done so yet on
> my new Note 2.  Considering it, though the stock build isn't bad at the
> moment.  Is Cyanogen still the preferred base for most rooted OS builds
> these days?  One of the things I'm concerned about with rooting the Note 2
> in particular is S-Pen support.
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 9:35 AM, Sheldon, Roger W <
> Roger.Sheldon at firstdata.com> wrote:
>
>> After rooting did you notice increased performance or decreasing in data
>> plan usage?
>>
>>
>>
>> Roger Sheldon
>> Storage Engineer
>> wk 402.777.7901
>> cell 402.889.2585
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jason N [mailto:dashrender at cox.net]
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 9:28 AM
>> To: Omaha Linux User Group
>> Cc: Sheldon, Roger W
>> Subject: Re: [olug] August Talk
>>
>> I still have my stock S4 (one week old today).  I agree that the carriers
>> are collecting entirely to much data from and on the users, and rooting
>> away all of their bloat ware is awesome!.
>>
>>
>> ---- "Sheldon wrote:
>> Aren't there applications like Helium that will backup/sync the phone and
>> apps too? Guessing there are ssh terminals too. I haven't used either one
>> yet so not sure how frustrating they might be to work with.
>>
>>
>>
>> Roger Sheldon
>> Storage Engineer
>> wk 402.777.7901
>> cell 402.889.2585
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: olug-bounces at olug.org [mailto:olug-bounces at olug.org] On Behalf Of
>> Obi-Wan
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 9:09 AM
>> To: Omaha Linux User Group
>> Subject: Re: [olug] August Talk
>>
>> I root for 2 reasons:
>> 1. Comprehensive backups
>> 2. Running an sshd server makes transferring files much easier
>>
>>
>> Ben "Obi-Wan" Hollingsworth, www.Jedi.com Sent from my rooted Samsung
>> Galaxy Note® II
>>
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: "Sheldon, Roger W" <Roger.Sheldon at firstdata.com>
>> Date: 2013/07/03  9:01 AM  (GMT-06:00)
>> To: Omaha Linux User Group <olug at olug.org>,Rob Townley <
>> Rob.Townley at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [olug] August Talk
>>
>> Haven't really following the roots here but why would I want to root my
>> S4? Not trying to be funny although my little princess says Dad's funny
>>
>>
>>
>> Roger Sheldon
>> Storage Engineer
>> wk 402.777.7901
>> cell 402.889.2585
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: olug-bounces at olug.org [mailto:olug-bounces at olug.org] On Behalf Of
>> Justin Reiners
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 12:01 AM
>> To: Rob Townley; Omaha Linux User Group
>> Subject: Re: [olug] August Talk
>>
>> Does anyone out there still have a stock phone?? I've rooted all phones,
>> even hacked berries :P I tried to go back to stock for a day, felt, dirty.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 11:47 PM, Rob Townley <rob.townley at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > RootFest!
>> >
>> > Bring your phone and we help each other root.  There oughta be LiveCDs
>> > for this purpose.
>> >
>> > InstallFests are not necessary anymore, but rootfests....
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 10:57 PM, Rob Townley <rob.townley at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > After reading about how Motorola has been piping most all
>> > > authentication sites through their own servers sometimes even
>> > > without encryption, one is much safer to run a rooted phone than
>> > > stock.  Youtube, Picasa, and
>> > Facebook
>> > > credentials are sent without unencrypted.  We are more secure rooted.
>> > >
>> > > http://www.beneaththewaves.net/Projects/Motorola_Is_Listening.html
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 9:58 PM, Aaron Grothe <ajgrothe at yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Hey Guys,
>> > >>
>> > >> I'm going to be presenting in August, so what do we want to talk
>> about?
>> > >>  I'm thinking about BTRF - BeTter File System, FUSE - Filesystem in
>> > >>USEr space, why Debian is the one true way and why the streets will
>> > >>run red
>> > with
>> > >> the blood of the unbelievers, System tap and why it can help you
>> > >> profile your system in new and exciting ways, grabbing control back
>> > >> of your
>> > android
>> > >> phone with OpenPdroid, LBEfirewall and Cynaogenmod, building your
>> > >> own distro or grab-bag.
>> > >>
>> > >> If there is something else I've talked about in the past that might
>> > >> interest you let me know.
>> > >>
>> > >> I'm kind of leaning towards either BTRFs or getting control back of
>> > >> your phone.  There is supposed to be a great article about getting
>> > >> control
>> > back
>> > >> of your phone in the summer 2013 - 2600 magazine, written by myself.
>> > >>  Unless I get bumped.
>> > >>
>> > >> Let me know,
>> > >>
>> > >> Aaron
>> > >> 0-0-0
>> > >> "The Journey is the Reward" - Old Zen Buddhist Saying
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