[olug] To RAID or not to RAID

Christopher R. White slaeyer at gmail.com
Mon Sep 22 18:23:02 CDT 2014


I may have 1 place I could keep a backup if I sweet talk my mom into
allowing a PC to live in the basement at her place.  If I did the first
backup locally, then the remote rsync would be fairly quick thereafter. . .
On Sep 22, 2014 6:19 PM, "Lou Duchez" <lou at paprikash.com> wrote:

> Any chance you've got a friend out there on the Internets who would let
> you keep a drive at his place?  For my remote backups, I do a two-step
> process:
>
> 1)    rsync is a great way to back data up across a network (including the
> Ethernet), especially where only a little data changes from one backup
> session to the next.  So let's say I use rsync to back up my data to
> "/backups/current" on the remote system.  Which I then follow with step 2
> ...
>
> 2)    /bin/cp -al /backups/current /backups/[date]
>
> What that does is create a dated backup directory, but thanks to the magic
> of the "-l" flag, hard links (not symbolic links) to the files in
> /backups/current are created.  That means I have a logical copy of
> /backups/current that takes up almost no additional drive space because
> it's pointing to the same files on the file system.  Now, if any of those
> files in /backups/current is changed the next time I run rsync, the file in
> /backups/current is unlinked first and a new file is created -- but the
> link to the original in /backups/[date] is left completely untouched.
>
>
>
>  For the moment, the best I have is a fireproof safe to store the drives
>> in.  This is upstairs in the closet, bolted to the wall and shelf, so
>> barring a flood that doesn't cover the house, we're good, lol.
>>
>> As for the drive sled, its transparent to the OS and it doesn't use a
>> caddy, the drive sits behind a door and just slides in.
>>
>> I've looked at online backup solutions but can't afford them at this time.
>> On Sep 22, 2014 5:49 PM, "Kevin" <sharpestmarble at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>  For online backup, there's a lot of options. I have yet to choose one, so
>>> when I do, I'll use Wikipedia's list[1] as a starting point. Then copy
>>> the
>>> table out to a spreadsheet app(whether Excel or LibreOffice Calc depends
>>> on
>>> whether I'm at home) and delete rows if they don't match something I
>>> want.
>>> Then delete the deciding column. You're then left with a bunch of
>>> providers
>>> whom you can research normally.
>>>
>>>
>>> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_online_backup_services
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 5:05 PM, Obi-Wan <obiwan at jedi.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>  On 09/22/2014 04:17 PM, Christopher R. White wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  Now to replace the old tape drive with one of these and setup a backup
>>>>>
>>>> job
>>>
>>>> to run nightly -
>>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817998020&Tpk=
>>>>> N82E16817998020
>>>>> and maybe also a pair of 2 TB HDDs to go with it  ^_-
>>>>>
>>>>>  Is that hot-swap bay invisible to the OS, or does it impose another
>>>> layer
>>>> of software between the OS and your hard drive?
>>>>
>>>> The drawback of the latter type of hot-plug bays (and tape drives, too)
>>>>
>>> is
>>>
>>>> that you're out of luck if your house burns down or the computer get
>>>> stolen.  Sure, you've still got your data, but you can't access any of
>>>> it
>>>> until you get another tape drive of hot-swap bay.  If your backups are
>>>>
>>> to a
>>>
>>>> USB enclosure, you can plug that into any computer you get your hands on
>>>>
>>> in
>>>
>>>> the event of an emergency.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> *Ben "Obi-Wan" Hollingsworth* obiwan at jedi.com <mailto:obiwan at jedi.com>
>>>> www.Jedi.com <http://www.jedi.com>
>>>> The stuff of earth competes for the allegiance I owe only to the
>>>> Giver of all good things, so if I stand, let me stand on the
>>>> promise that You will pull me through. /-- Rich Mullins/
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