[olug] To RAID or not to RAID

Mon Sep 22 19:45:57 CDT 2014

Lmfao
On Sep 22, 2014 6:52 PM, "Lou Duchez" <lou at paprikash.com> wrote:

> That's exactly how I did it for my system.  I made the initial backup
> locally, then drove it over to your mom's house.
>
> Your mom is a very sweet kindly person and you are lucky to have her BTW.
>
>
>  I may have 1 place I could keep a backup if I sweet talk my mom into
>> allowing a PC to live in the basement at her place.  If I did the first
>> backup locally, then the remote rsync would be fairly quick thereafter. .
>> .
>> On Sep 22, 2014 6:19 PM, "Lou Duchez" <lou at paprikash.com> wrote:
>>
>>  Any chance you've got a friend out there on the Internets who would let
>>> you keep a drive at his place?  For my remote backups, I do a two-step
>>> process:
>>>
>>> 1)    rsync is a great way to back data up across a network (including
>>> the
>>> Ethernet), especially where only a little data changes from one backup
>>> session to the next.  So let's say I use rsync to back up my data to
>>> "/backups/current" on the remote system.  Which I then follow with step 2
>>> ...
>>>
>>> 2)    /bin/cp -al /backups/current /backups/[date]
>>>
>>> What that does is create a dated backup directory, but thanks to the
>>> magic
>>> of the "-l" flag, hard links (not symbolic links) to the files in
>>> /backups/current are created.  That means I have a logical copy of
>>> /backups/current that takes up almost no additional drive space because
>>> it's pointing to the same files on the file system.  Now, if any of those
>>> files in /backups/current is changed the next time I run rsync, the file
>>> in
>>> /backups/current is unlinked first and a new file is created -- but the
>>> link to the original in /backups/[date] is left completely untouched.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   For the moment, the best I have is a fireproof safe to store the drives
>>>
>>>> in.  This is upstairs in the closet, bolted to the wall and shelf, so
>>>> barring a flood that doesn't cover the house, we're good, lol.
>>>>
>>>> As for the drive sled, its transparent to the OS and it doesn't use a
>>>> caddy, the drive sits behind a door and just slides in.
>>>>
>>>> I've looked at online backup solutions but can't afford them at this
>>>> time.
>>>> On Sep 22, 2014 5:49 PM, "Kevin" <sharpestmarble at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>   For online backup, there's a lot of options. I have yet to choose
>>>> one, so
>>>>
>>>>> when I do, I'll use Wikipedia's list[1] as a starting point. Then copy
>>>>> the
>>>>> table out to a spreadsheet app(whether Excel or LibreOffice Calc
>>>>> depends
>>>>> on
>>>>> whether I'm at home) and delete rows if they don't match something I
>>>>> want.
>>>>> Then delete the deciding column. You're then left with a bunch of
>>>>> providers
>>>>> whom you can research normally.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_online_backup_services
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 5:05 PM, Obi-Wan <obiwan at jedi.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>   On 09/22/2014 04:17 PM, Christopher R. White wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>   Now to replace the old tape drive with one of these and setup a
>>>>>> backup
>>>>>> job
>>>>>> to run nightly -
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817998020&Tpk=
>>>>>>> N82E16817998020
>>>>>>> and maybe also a pair of 2 TB HDDs to go with it  ^_-
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   Is that hot-swap bay invisible to the OS, or does it impose another
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> layer
>>>>>> of software between the OS and your hard drive?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The drawback of the latter type of hot-plug bays (and tape drives,
>>>>>> too)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  is
>>>>>
>>>>>  that you're out of luck if your house burns down or the computer get
>>>>>> stolen.  Sure, you've still got your data, but you can't access any of
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> until you get another tape drive of hot-swap bay.  If your backups are
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  to a
>>>>>
>>>>>  USB enclosure, you can plug that into any computer you get your hands
>>>>>> on
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  in
>>>>>
>>>>>  the event of an emergency.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> *Ben "Obi-Wan" Hollingsworth* obiwan at jedi.com <mailto:obiwan at jedi.com
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> www.Jedi.com <http://www.jedi.com>
>>>>>> The stuff of earth competes for the allegiance I owe only to the
>>>>>> Giver of all good things, so if I stand, let me stand on the
>>>>>> promise that You will pull me through. /-- Rich Mullins/
>>>>>>
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