[olug] Slightly off topic: Ansible
aric at omahax.com
aric at omahax.com
Wed Nov 1 12:26:38 CDT 2017
Just commenting on the IRC vs Slack debate.
Out of principle, I'd prefer to use a protocol and some code for communication instead of using someone elses computer that is running a proprietary service. ............I don't miss the AIM/Yahoo/IQC/MSN Trillian aggregated chatroom messenger cluster mess.
What would be nice would be an open-source decentralized version of Slack with end to end encryption. I don't think it would be too hard to do, all the parts are there. ........kiss the skynet
------ Original message------From: Tony GiesDate: Wed, Nov 1, 2017 10:16 AMTo: Omaha Linux User Group;Cc: Subject:Re: [olug] Slightly off topic: Ansible
What Jay said. If you like IRC, you can basically squint and pretend
it's IRC, or actually use the IRC bridge to log in. But it also has
the large sans serif type, colorful layouts, and emojis that your non
technical staff need in order to feel comfortable, and enables the
early-20-somethings who only communicate in animated GIFs of
characters from TV shows to do so. The main downside is that the
official client is just a web app that you either need to keep a
browser window for, or download their "desktop app" which is done in
Electron meaning it hosts an entire separate Chromium browser itself
and eats up an absolute crapton of RAM just sitting there, and still
is essentially just a thin client to the same web app.
Tony Gies
Technical Projects Director
gruppe86 | IT Consulting, Software Development, Systems Integration
On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 1:57 PM, Jay Bendon wrote:
> Not to mention most business these days use slack as real time internal
> communications from CEO to sales to engineering. Sales people usually
> don't get excited about setting up IRC.
>
> --Jay
>
> On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 9:33 AM, Ben Watson wrote:
>
>> Slack workspaces like these (e.g. ansible-users) are free (for now) the
>> caveat being that you cannot search your message history past 10K
>> messages. If you want that feature (and others), then you have to pay.
>>
>> I've been an IRC user for a long time and share your sentiment of "geez,
>> yet another chat client", however, I have come to appreciate Slack's
>> "batteries included integrations" and consistent UI across thick/thin apps
>> on desktop and mobile platforms.
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 2:04 PM, Kevin wrote:
>>
>> > I'm with Rob. Don't see what's wrong with IRC as a protocol. While the
>> old
>> > clients may not be as user-friendly as Slack may or may not be(haven't
>> used
>> > it myself), newer clients can implement various IRC commands, such as
>> > listing/joining/leaving channels, connecting to servers, etc in whatever
>> > user-friendly/Apple-esque fashion they like.
>> >
>> > On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 2:15 AM, Jay Bendon wrote:
>> >
>> > > You can connect to slack via your favorite IRC client.
>> > > https://get.slack.help/hc/en-us/articles/201727913-Connect-
>> > > to-Slack-over-IRC-and-XMPP
>> > >
>> > > --Jay
>> > >
>> > > On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 9:53 PM, Rob Townley
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Dan, appreciate your effort here and like Ansible.
>> > > > i grudgingly joined because i do not see what is wrong with IRC.
>> > Slack
>> > > is
>> > > > not open source. Slack costs money. yada yada...
>> > > > Does one have to pay to start a channel like this?
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 10:02 PM, Ben Watson
>> > > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > Thanks for making this. Look forward to some interesting chats and
>> > > > sharing
>> > > > > knowledge.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 4:40 PM, Dan Linder wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > It's not a good day for me and remembering URLs in emails...
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > https://join.slack.com/t/ansible-users/shared_invite/
>> > > > > > enQtMjQ3NjY5MjUzMzQ0LWVkYTgwMjU2ZTFkMGRkMDA1NWE0OWRlMjRiYjQ1
>> > > > > > YjQ0N2RkNjk3N2QxMDkwOTViNzdiNTVlOWE5YWE4YmVjMzY
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Dan
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 4:14 PM, Justin Reiners <
>> > > justin at hotlinesinc.com
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > It looks like I might need an invite
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 4:06 PM, Dan Linder
>> > wrote:
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > For anyone who's using Ansible and wants to ask questions or
>> > have
>> > > > > > general
>> > > > > > > > discussions around it, I've setup a Slack room:
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > https://ansible-users.slack.com/
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > DanL
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