[olug] Basic cheap local hosting?

Sam Tetherow tetherow at shwisp.net
Mon Dec 5 17:56:05 UTC 2011 

While it probably doesn't meet the original poster's definition of cheap 
it is cheap in terms real colo-space.  Future Technologies has been 
building out a datacenter downtown.  They are multihomed with several 
different upstream providers.  If you want pricing or more information 
call Jon Truell at Future Technologies 402-610-1595

On 12/5/11 11:51 AM, Lou Duchez wrote:
> I have a friend who owns a business and needed a Web site / E-Mail.  
> He also has a pretty fast DSL pipe going to his office.  I persuaded 
> him that he could house a Linux box in his office to serve as his 
> router, his E-Mail server, and his Web server; I am his tech support, 
> and the price of my service is that he lets me put a couple low 
> traffic Web sites on that server.  He saves money and gets better 
> service plus attentive tech support; I get free server space and total 
> control over the server; everybody wins.
>
> Using a Linux box for a combined router / mail server is actually 
> pretty handy in a lot of ways.  Intraoffice E-Mail is lightning fast.  
> Outbound E-Mail is handed to the SMTP server almost immediately, and 
> for that matter, by the time you become aware of incoming E-Mail, it's 
> already on the LAN.  And whatever bottleneck there is on Web service 
> because of slower up speeds, well, for small sites it's not much of an 
> issue.
>
>
>> I have the 15 meg down residential package, and the equivalent business
>> hosting is $150 a month with a two year contract. It would be 
>> identical to
>> my $50 plan, except a static IP address and they're not blocking ports.
>>
>> Neither really costs Cox anything more to provide. But they know they 
>> can
>> gouge businesses, and they have no choice but to pay.
>>
>> I'm not going to make my url and web server use another port, so 
>> unless I
>> could somehow transparently forward port 80, I think the best 
>> solution is
>> to bite the bullet and sign up for a VPS. Patrick Swartz has 
>> contacted me
>> off list, and he is offering a very attractive VPS offering.
>>
>> The web page in question is just a guild webpage for Star Wars: The Old
>> Republic. My wife has already chastised me that we're paying two monthly
>> subscriptions (including the initial retail purchase of the game). We 
>> don't
>> normally pay MMOs. Adding a monthly VPS cost as well is surely going 
>> to be
>> a point of contention because it is for a game, even though the cost 
>> really
>> isn't all that much.
>>
>> I will also look at Hostgator since it has been suggested. The three 
>> shared
>> hosts I haven't used in recent years but seem to get suggested 
>> frequently
>> are Dreamhost, Bluehost and Hostgator.
>>
>> I've just had such bad experiences with shared hosts recently that I'm
>> reticent to try more. 1and1 is still billing me for a hosting package I
>> cancelled over a year ago and I'm really not happy with them in 
>> particular.
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 11:18 AM, 
>> SndChaser<sndchaser at cerebralrift.org>wrote:
>>
>>> Actually, right now Cox's two year Business Internet Starter 
>>> contracts are
>>> going for $75.05/mo.  That really isn't far off what I'm already 
>>> paying,
>>> but it only has 1 IP address and is 5Meg down, 1Meg up -- my current 
>>> seems
>>> to get 7Meg down, 1Meg up.  If I dumped the cable TV, this would end up
>>> being cheaper.
>>>
>>> George
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, 5 Dec 2011 02:24:39 -0600, Rob Townley wrote:
>>>
>>>> Maybe less if sign a 5 year contract.
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, December 4, 2011, Jason N<dashrender at cox.net>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm not sure cox can force you into anything, but I do know they 
>>>>> block
>>>>>
>>>> inbound port 80 and port 25.
>>>>
>>>>> A business line if you want to host from home costs about 
>>>>> $89/mnth.  If
>>>>>
>>>> you already pay for a the highest level of service with Cox this 
>>>> won't be
>>>> much more than you are already paying.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---- "T. J. Brumfield"<enderandrew at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>> I was under the impression that Cox won't offer a static IP with home
>>>>> internet, so you have to a pay a fortune for business internet.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have considered looking a dynamic DNS service, but I heard that Cox
>>>>> will
>>>>> force you into business internet if they detect your hosting a web
>>>>> server.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 7:01 PM, Lou Duchez<lou at paprikash.com>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>   I went for years from one hosting company to another, and in 
>>>>> each case,
>>>>> at
>>>>> some point tech support failed me mightily.  At the last company, 
>>>>> after a
>>>>>> seventeen-day server outage because I couldn't get past tier one 
>>>>>> tech
>>>>>> support, I resolved to host my own site.  Just about any old 
>>>>>> computer
>>>>>>
>>>>> will
>>>>> run Linux well enough for a low-bandwidth site, and now when I 
>>>>> need to
>>>>>> contact tech support, the guy may be a jerk but he takes my problems
>>>>>> seriously.  It's been five years now and I haven't looked back.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I assume you've got DSL or cable at home; how much to add a 
>>>>>> static IP
>>>>>> address?  If static is too pricy, you can always get dynamic DNS 
>>>>>> thru
>>>>>> www.dyn.com or elsewhere.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   I need to host a low bandwidth Wordpress site. Really, I don't 
>>>>>> need
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> anything more than a shared hosting account. But everyone I've 
>>>>>>> tried
>>>>>>> doesn't allow me to do page caching, so performance is pretty poor.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I actually just signed up for a hosting service the other day 
>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> the
>>>>> sales staff assured me without a doubt that I could do opcode 
>>>>> caching. I
>>>>>>> migrated my domain and site over, only to find it isn't enabled 
>>>>>>> on the
>>>>>>> server. In fact, pretty much any Apache module I need for that 
>>>>>>> caching
>>>>>>> plugin isn't installed and they're not willing to install any of 
>>>>>>> them,
>>>>>>> including some really basic/common modules like mod_deflate and
>>>>>>> mod_rewrite. The technical staff state that no one should have 
>>>>>>> reason
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> use those.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> After migrating this site five times already from one terrible 
>>>>>>> host to
>>>>>>> another, I'm curious if anyone on this list can recommend a 
>>>>>>> good, cheap
>>>>>>> service, or if they one of their own?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I could rent a VPS through Linode, except that seems overkill for a
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> single
>>>>> Wordpress install that will get minimal traffic.
>>>>>>> -- T. J. Brumfield
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