[olug] Basic cheap local hosting?

Mon Dec 5 18:16:38 UTC 2011

Wasn't there a thread last year about people in Omaha working on a
colocation project? Did anything materialize from that?

That would be an attractive option in a lot of ways as well.

On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Sam Tetherow <tetherow at shwisp.net> wrote:

> While it probably doesn't meet the original poster's definition of cheap
> it is cheap in terms real colo-space.  Future Technologies has been
> building out a datacenter downtown.  They are multihomed with several
> different upstream providers.  If you want pricing or more information call
> Jon Truell at Future Technologies 402-610-1595
>
>
> On 12/5/11 11:51 AM, Lou Duchez wrote:
>
>> I have a friend who owns a business and needed a Web site / E-Mail.  He
>> also has a pretty fast DSL pipe going to his office.  I persuaded him that
>> he could house a Linux box in his office to serve as his router, his E-Mail
>> server, and his Web server; I am his tech support, and the price of my
>> service is that he lets me put a couple low traffic Web sites on that
>> server.  He saves money and gets better service plus attentive tech
>> support; I get free server space and total control over the server;
>> everybody wins.
>>
>> Using a Linux box for a combined router / mail server is actually pretty
>> handy in a lot of ways.  Intraoffice E-Mail is lightning fast.  Outbound
>> E-Mail is handed to the SMTP server almost immediately, and for that
>> matter, by the time you become aware of incoming E-Mail, it's already on
>> the LAN.  And whatever bottleneck there is on Web service because of slower
>> up speeds, well, for small sites it's not much of an issue.
>>
>>
>>  I have the 15 meg down residential package, and the equivalent business
>>> hosting is $150 a month with a two year contract. It would be identical
>>> to
>>> my $50 plan, except a static IP address and they're not blocking ports.
>>>
>>> Neither really costs Cox anything more to provide. But they know they can
>>> gouge businesses, and they have no choice but to pay.
>>>
>>> I'm not going to make my url and web server use another port, so unless I
>>> could somehow transparently forward port 80, I think the best solution is
>>> to bite the bullet and sign up for a VPS. Patrick Swartz has contacted me
>>> off list, and he is offering a very attractive VPS offering.
>>>
>>> The web page in question is just a guild webpage for Star Wars: The Old
>>> Republic. My wife has already chastised me that we're paying two monthly
>>> subscriptions (including the initial retail purchase of the game). We
>>> don't
>>> normally pay MMOs. Adding a monthly VPS cost as well is surely going to
>>> be
>>> a point of contention because it is for a game, even though the cost
>>> really
>>> isn't all that much.
>>>
>>> I will also look at Hostgator since it has been suggested. The three
>>> shared
>>> hosts I haven't used in recent years but seem to get suggested frequently
>>> are Dreamhost, Bluehost and Hostgator.
>>>
>>> I've just had such bad experiences with shared hosts recently that I'm
>>> reticent to try more. 1and1 is still billing me for a hosting package I
>>> cancelled over a year ago and I'm really not happy with them in
>>> particular.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 11:18 AM, SndChaser<sndchaser@**cerebralrift.org<sndchaser at cerebralrift.org>
>>> >wrote:
>>>
>>>  Actually, right now Cox's two year Business Internet Starter contracts
>>>> are
>>>> going for $75.05/mo.  That really isn't far off what I'm already paying,
>>>> but it only has 1 IP address and is 5Meg down, 1Meg up -- my current
>>>> seems
>>>> to get 7Meg down, 1Meg up.  If I dumped the cable TV, this would end up
>>>> being cheaper.
>>>>
>>>> George
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 5 Dec 2011 02:24:39 -0600, Rob Townley wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  Maybe less if sign a 5 year contract.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sunday, December 4, 2011, Jason N<dashrender at cox.net>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  I'm not sure cox can force you into anything, but I do know they block
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  inbound port 80 and port 25.
>>>>>
>>>>>  A business line if you want to host from home costs about $89/mnth.
>>>>>>  If
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  you already pay for a the highest level of service with Cox this
>>>>> won't be
>>>>> much more than you are already paying.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> ---- "T. J. Brumfield"<enderandrew at gmail.**com<enderandrew at gmail.com>>
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>> I was under the impression that Cox won't offer a static IP with home
>>>>>> internet, so you have to a pay a fortune for business internet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have considered looking a dynamic DNS service, but I heard that Cox
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> force you into business internet if they detect your hosting a web
>>>>>> server.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 7:01 PM, Lou Duchez<lou at paprikash.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  I went for years from one hosting company to another, and in each
>>>>>> case,
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> some point tech support failed me mightily.  At the last company,
>>>>>> after a
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> seventeen-day server outage because I couldn't get past tier one tech
>>>>>>> support, I resolved to host my own site.  Just about any old computer
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  will
>>>>>> run Linux well enough for a low-bandwidth site, and now when I need to
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> contact tech support, the guy may be a jerk but he takes my problems
>>>>>>> seriously.  It's been five years now and I haven't looked back.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I assume you've got DSL or cable at home; how much to add a static IP
>>>>>>> address?  If static is too pricy, you can always get dynamic DNS thru
>>>>>>> www.dyn.com or elsewhere.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  I need to host a low bandwidth Wordpress site. Really, I don't need
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  anything more than a shared hosting account. But everyone I've tried
>>>>>>>> doesn't allow me to do page caching, so performance is pretty poor.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I actually just signed up for a hosting service the other day
>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> sales staff assured me without a doubt that I could do opcode
>>>>>> caching. I
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> migrated my domain and site over, only to find it isn't enabled on
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> server. In fact, pretty much any Apache module I need for that
>>>>>>>> caching
>>>>>>>> plugin isn't installed and they're not willing to install any of
>>>>>>>> them,
>>>>>>>> including some really basic/common modules like mod_deflate and
>>>>>>>> mod_rewrite. The technical staff state that no one should have
>>>>>>>> reason
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> use those.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> After migrating this site five times already from one terrible host
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> another, I'm curious if anyone on this list can recommend a good,
>>>>>>>> cheap
>>>>>>>> service, or if they one of their own?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I could rent a VPS through Linode, except that seems overkill for a
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  single
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wordpress install that will get minimal traffic.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -- T. J. Brumfield
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