[olug] Tor could be all the more important

[Dave Rowe]

/facepalm - you're right, Kevin.  A bit alarmist on my end.

Still.  I don't like where this could go.

-Dave

On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 10:54 AM, Dave Rowe <dave at roweware.com> wrote:
> Where did you read that?  It referenced an early draft from 18 months
> ago would only track that information.
>
> From the beginning of the article:
> "A last-minute rewrite of the bill expands the information that
> commercial Internet providers are required to store to include
> customers' names, addresses, phone numbers, credit card numbers, bank
> account numbers, and temporarily-assigned IP addresses, some committee
> members suggested. By a 7-16 vote, the panel rejected an amendment
> that would have clarified that only IP addresses must be stored."
>
> On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 10:44 AM, Kevin <sharpestmarble at gmail.com> wrote:
>> According to TFA, it was just accounting stuff and DHCP IPs that would
>> be tracked(name, address, bank account/CC#). Actual traffic and
>> connections wouldn't be logged.
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 10:36, T. J. Brumfield <enderandrew at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> There has been evidence that Tor isn't really anonymous and can be tracked
>>> back to you. On top of that, they're talking ISP sniffing, so they're
>>> grabbing your data directly from your connection to the internet. So they'll
>>> have your MAC, and all your traffic.
>>>
>>> In the end, I'm not worried too much because ultimately I don't have
>>> anything to hide. But this should be just like any other kind of search, and
>>> dependent on a warrant. I'm not sure why warrantless tracking and searches
>>> are suddenly acceptable.
>>>
>>> http://xkcd.com/538/
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 10:32 AM, <jman at miwire.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>   I keep all for at least one year....
>>>>
>>>>   Kelly Williams <kellywilliams81 at gmail.com> wrote ..
>>>>
>>>> Ok I agree with you for the children, but our privacy like emails to
>>>> loved ones or IMs to that special someone that you love. In a way I am
>>>> glad I am cutting my internet service and use public internet. But using
>>>> https and tor with a proxy. Plus if sending a file to online backup
>>>> encrypt it before I send it....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 7/29/2011 10:02 AM, Kevin wrote:
>>>> > But think of the children! What will protect them from Internet
>>>> > Pornographers?!?! :rolleyes:
>>>> >
>>>> > On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 09:55, Dave Rowe  wrote:
>>>> >> Using utilities like Tor and what not for protecting traffic - even
>>>> >> legit, 'normal' traffic.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20084939-281/house-panel-approves-broadene
>>>> d-isp-snooping-bill/?tag=mantle_skin;content
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