[olug] Cost effective enterprise backup

Tue Jan 29 15:14:18 UTC 2013

How much does it cost a medium sized business, I hate webpages that dont
have prices, I give them my info and then they call weekly and email daily.
Aint nobody got time for that! <lol>

On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Hurley, Rod <RHurley at tenaska.com> wrote:

> Won't beat y'all over the head with this, but you won't top CommVault.
>  I've used TSM (Tivoli), Netbackup, BackupExec, ArcServe and dedupe stuff
> like Avamar, DataDomain.
>
> CommVault does client or storage side dedupe (we use the client side often
> for remote sites with limited bandwidth), has very robust reporting tools,
> is fast.  Licensing can be by client or capacity, whichever works best for
> you.  It is a GUI based architecture, so you script kiddies might get a
> little antsy wanting to type something.
>
> My 2 cents.
>
> Rod
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: olug-bounces at olug.org [mailto:olug-bounces at olug.org] On Behalf Of
> Craig Wolf
> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 8:57 AM
> To: Omaha Linux User Group
> Subject: Re: [olug] Cost effective enterprise backup
>
> Don't have VMWare, cost prohibitive.  Have Hyper-V and works really well
> on Server 2012 so far.
>
> Craig Wolf
> (402)990-3010
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 8:26 AM, Justin Reiners <justin at hotlinesinc.com
> >wrote:
>
> > have you used the Yosemite VMware plugin? how does that work?
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 8:16 AM, Craig Wolf <wolfout101 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > +1 CommVault
> > > I have used CommVault in the past and was REALLY happy with it after
> > going
> > > through 4 others.  I would love to go back to CommVault if I can
> > > swing
> > the
> > > cost.  I also had a fantastic support structure through a VAR for
> > CommVault
> > > that solved my issues most every time but we did reach out to CV for
> > > assistance a few items and they were very good too!
> > >
> > > We use Yosemite where I am now...it is adequate, nothing special. It
> > > IS very inexpensive though.
> > >
> > > Craig Wolf
> > > (402)990-3010
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 7:36 AM, Christopher R. White
> > > <slaeyer at gmail.com
> > > >wrote:
> > >
> > > > I think personally they are interchangeable, but my boss found the
> > legal
> > > > moniker himself, years ago, so we stick with that, lol.  We know
> > > > all to well that just because its free, does not make it legal to
> > > > use.  I
> > think
> > > > the legal part helps greatly to alleviate feats.
> > > > On Jan 29, 2013 2:03 AM, "Kevin" <sharpestmarble at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I thought it was Free/Libre Open Source Software. Either one, it
> > means
> > > > the
> > > > > same thing.
> > > > > On Jan 28, 2013 10:04 PM, "Christopher R. White"
> > > > > <slaeyer at gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Free & Legal Open Source Software On Jan 28, 2013 10:02 PM,
> > > > > > "Justin Reiners" <justin at hotlinesinc.com
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Jeff, Yosemite looks to offer VMWare hot backup, and for
> > > > > > > 1700
> > > > unlimited
> > > > > > > hosts, very nice.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Christopher - What is floss??
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Commvault looks very interesting as well. I have been
> > > > > > > searching
> > > here
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > there the last week, Veeam looked promising, except for the
> > > $800/CPU
> > > > > > price
> > > > > > > for VM backup. Acronis is right around $600/CPU. I hate. did
> > > > > > > I
> > > > mention
> > > > > > > hate. bacula, not sure why. just do.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 9:54 PM, Christopher R. White <
> > > > > slaeyer at gmail.com
> > > > > > > >wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Did I mention BackupPC is FLOSS??
> > > > > > > > On Jan 28, 2013 9:16 PM, "Christopher R. White" <
> > > slaeyer at gmail.com
> > > > >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > BackupPC is fairly straightforward.  It backs up all our
> > > Windows
> > > > &
> > > > > > *nix
> > > > > > > > > boxen.  It has options for bare metal and VM plus
> > > > > > > > > incremental
> > > > > > backups.
> > > > > > > >  We
> > > > > > > > > have it attached to an iSCSI device for speedy syncs and
> > > > > > > > > it
> > > > rsyncs
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > an
> > > > > > > > > off site Nas for backups of the backups.
> > > > > > > > > On Jan 28, 2013 9:07 PM, "Justin Reiners" <
> > > > justin at hotlinesinc.com>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> Currently we are using avamar at cosentry to do
> > > > > > > > >> backups. If
> > > you
> > > > > want
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > >> call it that, we want to fond something a little more
> > > > > > > > >> user
> > > > > friendly
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > >> cost effective. I have been looking at acronis
> > > > > > > > >> vmprotect for
> > > our
> > > > > > > VMware
> > > > > > > > >> architecture (6 hosts) 50 some VMs. 40 some Linux
> > > > > > > > >> servers, 5
> > > > > windows
> > > > > > > > >> servers. What is everyone out the in the corporate
> > > > > > > > >> world
> > > using?
> > > > > > >  Avamar
> > > > > > > > >> has
> > > > > > > > >> issues of restoring to the same machine and 1gb during
> > > > > > > > >> work
> > > > hours.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> I plan on backing up to disk. And taking backup copies
> > > > > > > > >> off
> > > > site. I
> > > > > > > would
> > > > > > > > >> love bare metal for physical machines, something avamar
> > > > > > > > >> does
> > > not
> > > > > > have.
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