[olug] Cost effective enterprise backup

Hurley, Rod RHurley at TENASKA.com
Tue Jan 29 19:56:45 UTC 2013 

For CV it depends on the number of clients you have, or the size of your data volumes you want to protect.  I could put you in touch with someone who can get you accurate information if you wish. 

Ours has been in place for years so I wouldn't know what your cost would be.  No matter what you buy, you must expect the price to be in the thousands.  If their data is essential to their business, you can swing the ROI.  

Rod

-----Original Message-----
From: olug-bounces at olug.org [mailto:olug-bounces at olug.org] On Behalf Of Justin Reiners
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 9:14 AM
To: Omaha Linux User Group
Subject: Re: [olug] Cost effective enterprise backup

How much does it cost a medium sized business, I hate webpages that dont have prices, I give them my info and then they call weekly and email daily.
Aint nobody got time for that! <lol>

On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Hurley, Rod <RHurley at tenaska.com> wrote:

> Won't beat y'all over the head with this, but you won't top CommVault.
>  I've used TSM (Tivoli), Netbackup, BackupExec, ArcServe and dedupe 
> stuff like Avamar, DataDomain.
>
> CommVault does client or storage side dedupe (we use the client side 
> often for remote sites with limited bandwidth), has very robust 
> reporting tools, is fast.  Licensing can be by client or capacity, 
> whichever works best for you.  It is a GUI based architecture, so you 
> script kiddies might get a little antsy wanting to type something.
>
> My 2 cents.
>
> Rod
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: olug-bounces at olug.org [mailto:olug-bounces at olug.org] On Behalf 
> Of Craig Wolf
> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 8:57 AM
> To: Omaha Linux User Group
> Subject: Re: [olug] Cost effective enterprise backup
>
> Don't have VMWare, cost prohibitive.  Have Hyper-V and works really 
> well on Server 2012 so far.
>
> Craig Wolf
> (402)990-3010
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 8:26 AM, Justin Reiners 
> <justin at hotlinesinc.com
> >wrote:
>
> > have you used the Yosemite VMware plugin? how does that work?
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 8:16 AM, Craig Wolf <wolfout101 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > +1 CommVault
> > > I have used CommVault in the past and was REALLY happy with it 
> > > after
> > going
> > > through 4 others.  I would love to go back to CommVault if I can 
> > > swing
> > the
> > > cost.  I also had a fantastic support structure through a VAR for
> > CommVault
> > > that solved my issues most every time but we did reach out to CV 
> > > for assistance a few items and they were very good too!
> > >
> > > We use Yosemite where I am now...it is adequate, nothing special. 
> > > It IS very inexpensive though.
> > >
> > > Craig Wolf
> > > (402)990-3010
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 7:36 AM, Christopher R. White 
> > > <slaeyer at gmail.com
> > > >wrote:
> > >
> > > > I think personally they are interchangeable, but my boss found 
> > > > the
> > legal
> > > > moniker himself, years ago, so we stick with that, lol.  We know 
> > > > all to well that just because its free, does not make it legal 
> > > > to use.  I
> > think
> > > > the legal part helps greatly to alleviate feats.
> > > > On Jan 29, 2013 2:03 AM, "Kevin" <sharpestmarble at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I thought it was Free/Libre Open Source Software. Either one, 
> > > > > it
> > means
> > > > the
> > > > > same thing.
> > > > > On Jan 28, 2013 10:04 PM, "Christopher R. White"
> > > > > <slaeyer at gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Free & Legal Open Source Software On Jan 28, 2013 10:02 PM, 
> > > > > > "Justin Reiners" <justin at hotlinesinc.com
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Jeff, Yosemite looks to offer VMWare hot backup, and for
> > > > > > > 1700
> > > > unlimited
> > > > > > > hosts, very nice.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Christopher - What is floss??
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Commvault looks very interesting as well. I have been 
> > > > > > > searching
> > > here
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > there the last week, Veeam looked promising, except for 
> > > > > > > the
> > > $800/CPU
> > > > > > price
> > > > > > > for VM backup. Acronis is right around $600/CPU. I hate. 
> > > > > > > did I
> > > > mention
> > > > > > > hate. bacula, not sure why. just do.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 9:54 PM, Christopher R. White <
> > > > > slaeyer at gmail.com
> > > > > > > >wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Did I mention BackupPC is FLOSS??
> > > > > > > > On Jan 28, 2013 9:16 PM, "Christopher R. White" <
> > > slaeyer at gmail.com
> > > > >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > BackupPC is fairly straightforward.  It backs up all 
> > > > > > > > > our
> > > Windows
> > > > &
> > > > > > *nix
> > > > > > > > > boxen.  It has options for bare metal and VM plus 
> > > > > > > > > incremental
> > > > > > backups.
> > > > > > > >  We
> > > > > > > > > have it attached to an iSCSI device for speedy syncs 
> > > > > > > > > and it
> > > > rsyncs
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > an
> > > > > > > > > off site Nas for backups of the backups.
> > > > > > > > > On Jan 28, 2013 9:07 PM, "Justin Reiners" <
> > > > justin at hotlinesinc.com>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> Currently we are using avamar at cosentry to do 
> > > > > > > > >> backups. If
> > > you
> > > > > want
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > >> call it that, we want to fond something a little more 
> > > > > > > > >> user
> > > > > friendly
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > >> cost effective. I have been looking at acronis 
> > > > > > > > >> vmprotect for
> > > our
> > > > > > > VMware
> > > > > > > > >> architecture (6 hosts) 50 some VMs. 40 some Linux 
> > > > > > > > >> servers, 5
> > > > > windows
> > > > > > > > >> servers. What is everyone out the in the corporate 
> > > > > > > > >> world
> > > using?
> > > > > > >  Avamar
> > > > > > > > >> has
> > > > > > > > >> issues of restoring to the same machine and 1gb 
> > > > > > > > >> during work
> > > > hours.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> I plan on backing up to disk. And taking backup 
> > > > > > > > >> copies off
> > > > site. I
> > > > > > > would
> > > > > > > > >> love bare metal for physical machines, something 
> > > > > > > > >> avamar does
> > > not
> > > > > > have.
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